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Favoriting December 27, 2021: Mark Schatzker, author, "The End of Craving"

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Tonight: Mark Schatzker, author, "The End of Craving"

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The End Of Craving: Recovering the Lost Wisdom of Eating Well, by Mark Schatzker

MarkSchatzker.com - author site

@MarkSchatzker - Twitter

‘The End of Craving’ Review: Why You Can’t Eat Just One (WSJ book review, Nov 3, 2021)

‘Warning: ultra-processed’ — A call for warnings on foods that aren’t really foods (BMJ Global Health, Dec 21, 2021): "With more than half the total calories consumed in high-income countries coming from ultra-processed foods and rapid increases in low- and middle-income countries, these products are exposing billions of people to a higher risk of type 2 diabetes, heart disease, stroke, depression and death. Your grandparents wouldn’t have used or even recognised them. In the half century or so since ultra-processed foods became available, diets high in those products have largely displaced traditional and healthier diets, and ultra-processed foods have been among the most aggressively promoted and marketed products in the world. In addition, their intensive marketing has led to rapidly growing sales in low- and middle-income countries. Worldwide, palates (and brains) have been trained to crave these foods while the food industry invests many millions in formulating and marketing them to be highly desirable."

Thread accompanying the James Webb meme - see also this explainer video (on toxic YouTube, unfortunately)

$10bn James Webb space telescope launches on ‘eternal search’ mission (The Guardian, Dec 25, 2021): $10B successor to the Hubble telescope takes off on board rocket from ESA’s launch base in Kourou, French Guiana

Mark Zuckerberg Is TNR’s 2021 Scoundrel of the Year (by David Roth in The New Republic, Dec 22, 2021): “There are many things to abhor about Mark Zuckerberg and his works, but the fundamental mediocrity of it all - the lack of vision, the absence of any moral sense or shame, the inability and unwillingness not just to fix but even reckon with the dangerous and ungovernable thing he’s made - is what feels both most egregious and most of this moment. It is embarrassing and not a little enraging to realize that you are subject to the whims of an amoral and incurious capitalist posing as a visionary optimist. It is especially humiliating when the all-bestriding and inevitable figure in question is such a dim, dull nullity. . . . The nitwit founder of Facebook has created the worst, most damaging website in the world. And we’re just supposed to accept it.”

‘I do surfing’: an AI-generated Mark Zuckerberg on Facebook’s bad year (by Julia Carrie Wong and Botnik Studios in The Guardian, today, Dec 27, 2021): "we worked with Botnik Studios to create a predictive keyboard trained on the past two years of Zuckerberg’s public statements (archived by Marquette University’s Zuckerberg Files). ... Guardian journalists provided the questions; Botnik used the predictive keyboard to generate the answers." (See also Jamie Brew and Bob Mankoff on TT Feb 12, 2018; and Jamie Brew on TT Oct 8, 2018.)

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Listener comments!

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listener james from westwood:

Evening, Mark and all!
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ultradamno:

Mark! Techtoracious!
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Handy Haversack:

Mark! Techyon Drives! Glad to be here with youse!
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Bas NL:

Hi Mark! All!
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Ken From Hyde Park:

Here for this week's Techronicles!
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chresti:

Hi Mark and technons!
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Will the Sound Guy:

Hello, Mark and all!!!
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Webhamster Henry:

Hi Techtonic fans .. nice to see Botnik in the playlist news breakdown!
Avatar 🤖 6:05pm
herb.nyc:

Eating a lot? If mark is sitting around the house, is he SITTING AROUND THE HOUSE? Happy post-Xmas to all.
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:05pm
Ken From Hyde Park:

It did launch, but there was one minor problem - www.xkcd.com...
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:05pm
Bas NL:

Perfect launch. Had my fingers crossed!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:06pm
DjLorraine:

I hope KD Lang is tuning in tonight
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:06pm
Will the Sound Guy:

It's going to be pretty amazing!!!
  6:06pm
Oy:

Dude

No jinx

Miles to go ere it’s home mmmkay?
Avatar 🤖 6:07pm
MarciB:

I heard that if nothing happens for a month or so, it's good!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:07pm
Webhamster Henry:

It's going to be a month before it gets 1,000,000 miles out to L2, but: 1,000,000 miles to L2.
  6:07pm
P-90:

Mark, you’re being facetious about the Webb not being able to surveil the Earth, right?
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:07pm
Webhamster Henry:

Lets hope it doesn't bump into space junk.
Avatar 🤖 6:08pm
MarciB:

Oh I'm so excited for this interview!
  6:08pm
Oy:

Just made more brownies and a banana bread.

Way ahead of y’all

Pea soup and cranberry sauce round two tk
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:08pm
Little Danny:

hello mark, hello all
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:09pm
DjLorraine:

Mark Schatzker interview and book. Critical topic. TY
  6:10pm
Quinn02:

Hi Mark! I love this show!
  6:10pm
Jackie G:

Eat food, not too much. mostly fruit and vegetables. And a little dark chocolate on occasion.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:11pm
Franco Twinkie:

Eat mostly ice, and a little plaster.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:11pm
Mark Hurst:

Hi all, thanks for joining in this evening! (Yes, I know Webb has a ways to go - anyway it's worth celebrating a flawless launch, as Bas points out)
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:11pm
Webhamster Henry:

Do yoga in your grave, eat brains.
  6:12pm
Jackie G:

High fructose corn syrup is evil
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:12pm
ultradamno:

Not to mention the racist anti-chinese food campaign on the basis of MSG
  6:12pm
Oy:

I learned that hamsters prefer everclear to water and they can drink a human under the table

In case you cared

What ain’t critical nowadays?

Meanwhile lard and bacon fats and butter are better for y’all than cornsyrup and related oils

Happy eve
Avatar 🤖 6:13pm
MarciB:

My guess: Big Agra is the villain. But really, it's all about our own biology, our age, our metabolism...
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:13pm
Webhamster Henry:

@Oy I just sip my little water bottle, and head off to my little wheel for a little real-world "doom scrolling"
--signed,
a hamster
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:14pm
Mark Hurst:

@Quinn02 thanks!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:14pm
Will the Sound Guy:

I just made a creamy portobello, shitake, leek, and shallot soup 🍲
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:15pm
Mark Hurst:

@Will sounds delicious
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:16pm
Ken From Hyde Park:

What? Diet sodas didn't solve this problem? <shocked face emoji>
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:16pm
Mark Hurst:

@KenfHP yep exactly
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:17pm
Bas NL:

Maybe a higher weight gives one an evolutionary advantage shopping for food in the supermarket?
  6:17pm
Jackie G:

Some people are just big-boned. What can you do?
  6:18pm
P-90:

Possible band name: “The Sandfly Contingent”
  6:19pm
The Butterman:

I’m changing my name to cornsyrupman
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:19pm
Mark Hurst:

Niacin, riboflavin, thiamin!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:20pm
Franco Twinkie:

And a little sawdust!
  6:20pm
P-90:

Beriberi similarly wiped out
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:20pm
Webhamster Henry:

For a good laugh, listen to Ruth Draper's "Doctors and Diets", a monologue from the 20s
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MarciB:

A shout out to natty Italian wines!
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herb.nyc:

We grew up under (gung ho American) capitalism. So we should be able to gorge on food, any and all kinds. A theory- I kinda sorta believe. (Because capitalism made us selfish and hateful. Again, I kinda sorta believe)
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:21pm
Webhamster Henry:

"A part of your nutritious breakfast!"
  6:22pm
P-90:

Carbs and fats correctly combined maximizes the benefits of each, and minimizes the potential harm.
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MarciB:

My Italian ancestors were all lean until they came here
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:22pm
Webhamster Henry:

How about other skinny cultures who are not actually starving?
  6:24pm
P-90:

America leads the world in childhood niacin and riboflavin awareness.
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Franco Twinkie:

I agree Mark! After staying in Rome, which I thought was the be all end all of food, I went to Bolongna. The scales fell from my eyes pretty damn quick.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:25pm
Mark Hurst:

@P-90 good one. We're solving niacin illiteracy, one cereal box at a time!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:25pm
Mark Hurst:

@Franco totally agree. Emilia Romagna is amazing
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:28pm
Webhamster Henry:

Mmm yum! "It's a cookbook!" "It's People!
soylent.com
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HyperDose:

Soylent® and Spam®, what else could you ask for?
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:30pm
Webhamster Henry:

There's also the fabulous growth hormones in yer aggrobiz meats.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:31pm
listener james from westwood:

Also re: energy drinks, some of those bottles are 2 or more servings, so could be 400% or more of RDA for the B6 if you chug the jug!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:32pm
Mark Hurst:

@James "bro, do you even overclock your B6?"
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:32pm
listener james from westwood:

I powder a whole bottle of B6 into the water of my float tank!
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HyperDose:

@listener james Is that before or after consuming the psilocybin edibles?
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:34pm
Webhamster Henry:

Humans need Thai Peanut sauce.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:34pm
Mark Hurst:

"Half of the space in my New Zealand bunker is for B6 storage!"
  6:35pm
Jackie G:

Popcorn: good
Cheezits: good
Cheezit popcorn: delicious!
  6:35pm
castor:

Diet also affects your gut biome which can cause issues with immune and auto-immune systems, mood, blood sugar, and more. My Italian-American father suffers from this some of these and I always think about how they might be connected.
  6:36pm
catherine:

People used to get scurvy from a lack of vitamin C - why havent they added that to everyday foods? Also why did pelagra appear in Italy and the southern US only? Surely many populations suffered from malnutrition in the 19th century...
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Webhamster Henry:

"Fish is brain food!" Maybe not, but might as well eat it while it's still here.
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Juli:

Tyyyyy
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:37pm
listener james from westwood:

Just checked the region of Italy previously cited on Wiki and there's a type of pasta whose name translates to "priest-strangler." So I'm sold.
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Ken From Hyde Park:

Snack food manufacturers peddle stuff with a combination of salty, sweet and fat that leads people to eat way more of that junk food than they should.
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Bas NL:

I think core is to have a good balance. Artificial or natural is not the issue.
  6:38pm
Jackie G:

Gotta eat beans; at least twice/week.
  6:39pm
NikiA:

this is a very compelling conversation. thank you Mark and Mark
  6:39pm
Oy:

I’m on synthroid hormone replacement (post thyroid ablation & Graves’ disease trying to blow my heart up the last few years yodda yodda) with a side benefit of putting on excess girth.

My dr asked if I was taking biotin supplements as that would be the only reason my T3 was solid but T4 was oddly upper limit.

Nope.

Later noticed that eggs and Ovaltine are mega biotin supples.

The more you know……******~~~*
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:40pm
Webhamster Henry:

I just ate up some yummy bean soup! It had some sea veggies in it too.

I'm over on the "happy" side of the Wong-Baker faces, scientists.
  6:40pm
Sam:

People are fat because they sit on their asses. If you exercise regularly you probably won’t gain weight, no matter what you eat. Just find a place to walk that you really like. Maybe it’s easier in Italy.
  6:41pm
Oy:

Ovaltine & espresso is so good
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iiibeat:

Applied science . . Buckle up!!
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HyperDose:

I'll sneak a cheeky scoop of Ovaltine in my smoothies every once in a while
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:42pm
Dano59:

@Sam: Yep, and I was just reminded, reading Hilary Campbell's "Murder Book," that the "Netflix & Chill" phenomenon is essentially just another capitalist profit enterprise.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:43pm
solo mon:

I think food should be worn, not eaten.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:43pm
Franco Twinkie:

On the A1 between Florence and Rome there is a truck stop called Autogrill. Their pizza is better than anything I've had in San Francisco, Los Angels and New York City. On the surface this seems suspect, but it illustrates how serious Italians about food.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:43pm
Dano59:

We shall spill no wine before its time
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Webhamster Henry:

You don't suppose this "science of induced craving" has anything to do with social media?
  6:44pm
Jackie G:

Americans and their reliance on cars: a recipe for obesity. Americans rarely walk. They drive everywhere.
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chresti:

RE: beyond meat, I thought the purpose of it was to do away with the contribution to global warming caused by the meat industry
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Franco Twinkie:

Solo, I'm wearing clam chowder of the front of my bath robe as we speak.
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Juli:

Surely man has not thought I should not die so I can reproduce lmfao...but the sex organs are tricksters like that lol
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listener james from westwood:

Those 1990s low-fat snacks were a grim experience. They jacked up the salt to make them gag-downable.
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Juli:

This is VERY helpful
  6:46pm
Sam:

I buy the healthy low calorie frozen dinners. And then I just end up eating 3 of them to feel full.
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Ken From Hyde Park:

@Jackie G - Yes, the suburban sprawl model that requires cars for everyone isn't helpful.
  6:46pm
Oy:

I love his voice

So close to Wallace Shawn

My rather not dinner w Andre
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solo mon:

Franco! I’m wearing taco sauce on my shirt and pants.
  6:47pm
P-90:

The crappy cheap fats used to make “low cal” and “lite” versions of many things are much more unhealthy than the slightly more calorie-rich fats they replace.
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Webhamster Henry:

Poutine is clearly the ideal food. #ocanada
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HyperDose:

@Henry The way IG targets it to you via the explore page is crazy. Food has sub-genres now like "cheese stretch", "cross sections", or "brisket knife scrape"
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listener james from westwood:

I just finished the last of the chicken parmigiana I made for Christmas dinner with whole wheat penne and vodka sauce and a good hunk of rye sourdough for sopping up stray sauce.
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Franco Twinkie:

The ultimate come-on over the phone: What food are you wearing?
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chresti:

Fat-free yogurt has a load of sugar in it.
  6:48pm
mr 6:

Corn syrup is not listed as a sugar
  6:48pm
Sam:

Beyond meat is for ethical reasons for than health reasons, I’d say. Factory farming and killing billions of animals when we don’t have to is just sadism on a psychotic level.
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Webhamster Henry:

#HyperDose I like TikToks of massive batches of food being prepared. Watch one and they'll give you a million of them!
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solo mon:

Fruit leather?
  6:49pm
Jackie G:

Is cheese food cheese or something resembing food?
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Mx. Baba Bee (e/they):

greetings, Mark and folx. Amazing interview, gotta check out that book.
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Dano59:

I'm sort of at lunchtime right now so a storebought cold-cut Italian sandwich (on enriched whole wheat - the wrong kind of bread!) and I'm heating up Italian wedding soup because I'm freezing. Trying to eat more, gain some weight back, and got a good start over the past weekend.
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solo mon:

OMX it’s Baba Bee!!
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Franco Twinkie:

Watch this: Baba, what food are you wearing?
  6:51pm
P-90:

SUGAR BLASTS
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Mx. Baba Bee (e/they):

solo! chrestikins! got the tin cans connected!
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Ken From Hyde Park:

In the store's ice cream freezer there was something with a label like "dairy-based frozen dessert product." Eww!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:51pm
Dano59:

Michael Pollan tried to warn us about all this -- and I am genuinely disturbed at the volume and variety of "energy drinks" in every. freaking. store. Coca-Cola now has some, and Coke IS an energy drink. Jeepers.
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chresti:

Mx Baba Beekins!
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Webhamster Henry:

Those Nutrition labels have ways to game them.
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Mx. Baba Bee (e/they):

Franco: Twinkies, of course! ;-)
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Franco Twinkie:

Ohhhhhh!
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StringOFperils:

Food, like one's own faeces, is meant for throwing.
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Mx. Baba Bee (e/they):

Eat it or wear it? I'm a both/and Baba
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Webhamster Henry:

Mmmm why are some of these drinks considered liquids? pbs.twimg.com...
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HyperDose:

Mx Boba Tea?
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solo mon:

A poncho made from hostess twinkies! Yes, and!
  6:53pm
castor:

That was a great interview! I am also thankful that I live in a big city with fairly easy access to a diversity of well made cuisine, including more authentic Italian food.
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MarciB:

This is why I love Einkorn flour (from Italy) and products from Jovial Foods
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:53pm
Mx. Baba Bee (e/they):

food out of the ground? ew! I want factory extrusions!
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:53pm
Will the Sound Guy:

when I can I try to cook with the least processed ingredients... tastes better too
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:54pm
Fuzzy:

French fries are vegetables
  6:54pm
Sam:

Is beer ok? It’s pretty natural and old school and my instincts tell me to drink a lot of it. But I’m not sure if that’s really evolutionary progress?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:54pm
Dano59:

Calling is Soylent is the cruelest joke of all
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Will the Sound Guy:

beer is always safe 🤪
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Webhamster Henry:

Some of these meats are going to be made from muscle stem cells, so they are meat without the animals and arguably the animal cruelty.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:55pm
solo mon:

I ate something called “B’ef” last week.
  6:55pm
Jackie G:

Soylent rhymes with toilet
  6:55pm
Sam:

Eat beans. Mostly black.
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StringOFperils:

We are already Plastinated Cheeto-orange skin-walkers.
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chresti:

Frankenstein burritos
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:55pm
listener james from westwood:

Hell, beer should be fine. Beer goes back. Egyptians, IIRC. At its best it has like, what, 3 ingredients? Chug on!
  6:55pm
castor:

most meat is still really bad for the environment
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Franco Twinkie:

Yay!
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HyperDose:

I got my B’ef curtains on Amazon
  6:56pm
Oy:

Beer is liquid bread w surprisingly too much sodium sometimes
Avatar 🤖 Swag For Life Member 6:56pm
Will the Sound Guy:

Thank you Mark!!! check you out on DDR!
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solo mon:

OLO HyperD
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Webhamster Henry:

The world of fermented foods and intestinal flora would be a whole other show.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:56pm
Stephen O:

Thank you, Mark!
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ultradamno:

See you in two weeks
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listener 126464:

Thanks Mark.
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Bas NL:

Thanks Marks!
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chresti:

Mass production anything is not good
  6:57pm
castor:

Thank you!
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solo mon:

Thanks Mark, good show!
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Handy Haversack:

Thanks, Mark!
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Franco Twinkie:

Thank you Mark. What's for dinner?
  6:57pm
P-90:

Cool! The last Double Diptonic was a winner. See you Saturday @Mark!
  6:57pm
Old Dave:

Another nice show Mark. Thanks very much!
  6:57pm
Oy:

Poutine is proof god luvs us
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Webhamster Henry:

WFMU needs a food show.
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HyperDose:

All killer, no filler. Thanks for giving it to us straight, Mark!
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ARB:

I love when Techtonic goes wellness, thank you!
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chresti:

Thanks Mark! We love Italian food
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Webhamster Henry:

WFMU's answer to Gary Null.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 6:58pm
Mark Hurst:

@ARB thanks!
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Bas NL:

WH with you.. WFMU needs a food show!
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Ken From Hyde Park:

Thanks, Marks. Food for thought!
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chresti:

Agree Webham!
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Webhamster Henry:

Wendy The Cheese Maven!
  6:59pm
hoeg:

Thanks so much Mark :)
Best wishes to you and your family and to all the Techtons and Techtonites!
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chresti:

Absolutely!
  6:59pm
Sam:

Yes this was super interesting. You always have incredible guests, Mark, and ask great questions. I like how you branched into a different unexpected realm tonight.
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Webhamster Henry:

Yes! ARB does a relevant Lead-in!
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Mark Hurst:

Thanks, everyone, glad you joined in! @Sam thanks! @Webham yes I appreciated that lead-in from ARB.
  7:20pm
mr 6:

Niacin is used by people to pass drug tests.
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