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  Absolutely Real/Adult Entertainment/Transmission Begins         0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Sterling Hayden  Not Knowing What You're Doing   Favoriting     Wayfarer, Seagoing Adventurer, Marine Corps Officer, a Clandestine Operative running guns to Serbian Partizans fighting Nazi Germany, Writer, Philosopher, Befuddled Inebriate, Pot Head, Brilliant Conversationalist, and sometimes a decent film actor who loathed being a phony and was haunted by the fact that he named names to the House Committee on Un-American Activities. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwsKDBca-h4  0:00:42 (Pop-up)
Dejing  Dejing 2   Favoriting Dejing  Daksina  https://decimus.bandcamp.com/album/dejing  0:00:53 (Pop-up)
Tim Gick  Boiling Cistern, Overfilled   Favoriting Neighbor Invader  Plastic Home Media  https://timgick.bandcamp.com/album/neighbor-invader  0:04:08 (Pop-up)
Sterling Hayden  ! Ain't Really Profesional   Favoriting       0:08:31 (Pop-up)
Milkweed  My Fathers Sheep Is Dead   Favoriting Folklore 1979  Self Released  https://milkweedfolk.bandcamp.com/album/folklore-1979-2  0:09:30 (Pop-up)
P Wits  Nobody   Favoriting My Resolution Is Free  Ilam Press Records  https://ilampressrecords.bandcamp.com/album/my-resolution-is-free  0:12:11 (Pop-up)
Cecilia Lopez & Ingrid Laubrock  Don't Believe It   Favoriting MAROMAS  Relative Pitch  https://ingrid-laubrock.bandcamp.com/album/maromas  0:15:43 (Pop-up)
RLLRBLL  1/2 Horse, 1/2 Pig   Favoriting Einäugige Kirsche  North Pole  Visit https://northpolerecords.bandcamp.com  0:20:15 (Pop-up)

Music behind DJ:
Gas 
Gas 1   Favoriting
Nah Und Fern 
Kompakt 
 
0:25:13 (Pop-up)
Turner Williams Jr.  Kiss My Dust   Favoriting Infinity Ditch  Soundholes  https://turnerwilliamsjr.bandcamp.com/album/infinity-ditch  0:34:22 (Pop-up)
Klara Lewis & Yuki Tsujii  Just Up The Road   Favoriting Salt Water  Trilogy Tapes  https://thetrilogytapes.bandcamp.com/album/salt-water  0:43:00 (Pop-up)
Patrick Shiroishi  A Sparrow in a Swallow’s Nest (with "Paloma") by Emma Ruth Rundle)   Favoriting 7''    Visit https://patrickshiroishi.bandcamp.com  0:45:54 (Pop-up)
Sterling Hayden  Writing Impotence/Whitman Quote   Favoriting       0:51:30 (Pop-up)
Juho Toivonen  Enne   Favoriting Sisarusten Toistuva Uni  Discreet Music  https://discreetmusicgbg.bandcamp.com  0:53:47 (Pop-up)

Music behind DJ:
Gas 
Gas 1   Favoriting
Nah Und Fern 
Kompakt 
 
0:59:42 (Pop-up)
Irr.App.(Ext.)  Fly Away-And Then What?   Favoriting Not Alone (Medicins Sans Frontiéres)  Durtro Jnana    1:03:35 (Pop-up)
Nora Rogers & Brian Haran  spheric (excerpt)   Favoriting S/t  Flat Plastic Home Media  https://norarogersbrianharan.bandcamp.com  1:07:54 (Pop-up)
Osmo Lindeman  Sunkist TV Commercial   Favoriting Electronic Works  Sahko Recordings  https://sahkorecordings.bandcamp.com/album/electronic-works  1:11:52 (Pop-up)
Mark Cunningham  Snake Ragga   Favoriting Odd Songs & Blue Mystery  Improved Sequence  https://improvedsequence.bandcamp.com/album/odd-songs-blue-mystery-imp081  1:12:09 (Pop-up)
Sterling Hayden  Commie Heros   Favoriting       1:15:58 (Pop-up)
Fred and Luna  Aurum C   Favoriting Im F​ü​nfminutentakt  Compost Records    1:17:36 (Pop-up)
Hanno Leichtmann  Abschied Fuaar Stimmen Und Becken   Favoriting Nouvelle Aventure  Karl Records  https://karlrecords.bandcamp.com/album/nouvelle-aventure  1:22:39 (Pop-up)

Music behind DJ:
Gas 
Gas 1   Favoriting
Nah Und Fern 
Kompakt 
 
1:25:10 (Pop-up)
Kiki Komendo & Martin Vital  La Terre, Ma Pierre   Favoriting La Noce Des Éléments  Groove Edge  Visit https://groovedge.bandcamp.com  1:31:57 (Pop-up)
Sterling Hayden  People Touching People Going By   Favoriting     3rd Interview With Tom Snyder https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDWyu2QdKLM  1:41:07 (Pop-up)
Annabelle Cocollos  Johnny   Favoriting Dessins du jour à la petite semaine  Manufacture des Cactées  https://manufacture-des-cactees.bandcamp.com/album/dessins-du-jour-la-petite-semaine  1:41:26 (Pop-up)
Erik Kramer  Pues as Lapsis Lazuli   Favoriting Where the fish are as fine as the color of colors  Self Released    1:43:54 (Pop-up)
Rossanna Arquette  Surrender Dorthy   Favoriting     Dialogue From The Film "After Hours"  1:44:40 (Pop-up)
Fursaxa  Divine Whirl   Favoriting Fursaxa  Ecstatic Peace!    1:45:39 (Pop-up)
C. Diab  The Excuse of Fiction   Favoriting Imerro      1:48:07 (Pop-up)
Dave Harrington, Max Jaffe, Patrick Shiroishi  Staring Into The Imagination (Of Your Face)   Favoriting Speak, Moment  AKP Recordings  https://daveharringtonmaxjaffepatrickshiroishi.bandcamp.com/album/speak-moment  1:53:51 (Pop-up)


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Listener comments!

Avatar 🎙 Swag For Life Member ♥ 10:01pm
Scott_Oz:

G'day Jonathan & Obscure Adults!
🌏🌧️🍻😎🤙💨🍺
Avatar 🎙 Swag For Life Member ♥ 10:03pm
Ïke:

I also shouldn’t be taken seriously because I’m so ridiculous.

…ridiculously *handsome* that is!
Avatar 🎙 Swag For Life Member ♥ 10:06pm
Aitch:

Blurred
Avatar ♥ 10:07pm
Jherweg:

Hey everybody ! Psyched to be here !
  10:08pm
Carmichael:

Heya Jonathan and noise enthusiasts
  10:09pm
🖤 d a r c y 🌈:

Who was that guy talking about ridiculous
  ♥ 10:13pm
Chris Crisco:

Kia Ora Peace & Love from New Zealand!
Where men are men and sheep are sheep!
Avatar 10:14pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ Song: "Not Knowing What You're Doing" by "Sterling Hayden"
wfmu.org...
  ♥ 10:15pm
Chris Crisco:

↳ Scott_Oz @10:01
Our little corner of the world is present & accounted for eh!
Avatar ♥ 10:16pm
Jherweg:

P wits is music from your own backyard Chris c
  ♥ 10:18pm
Chris Crisco:

↳ Jherweg @10:16
Cool! Not familiar with them but we've only been here 2.5 years.
Avatar 🎙 Swag For Life Member ♥ 10:18pm
Scott_Oz:

↳ Chris Crisco @10:15
Indeed Chris! I'm a bit dozy the Monday public holiday though mate. Massive weekend of muckups!
🍻😎🤙💨🍺
  ♥ 10:19pm
Chris Crisco:

↳ Scott_Oz @10:18
April Fool's day too! Do they have that down here?
Avatar 🎙 Swag For Life Member ♥ 10:22pm
Scott_Oz:

↳ Chris Crisco @10:19
Yeah mate, but I don't go for it myself.
  10:29pm
Bob in DC:

I dg that 1/2 and 1/2. Thank you
  🎙 Swag For Life Member ♥ 10:30pm
Enflod:

Jonathan, where did you go to high school?
Avatar 10:31pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

' The History we are taught was incapable of getting us to where we are. '
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 10:32pm
evancuts:

I read Sterling Hayden's memoir. He hated acting but did it just to pay for his sailing.
  10:32pm
Carmichael:

Purity of essence
  🎙 Swag For Life Member ♥ 10:32pm
Enflod:

Sterling Hayden—born in Montclair, NJ.
  10:32pm
SegFish:

Yes! My brother is only 2yrs youger than me and we went to the same schools. I read Fahrenheit 451, 1984, Animal Farm and Brave New World as required reading, and yet he never read any of them
  10:32pm
thesecoronalives:

I've always felt same about Tom Snyder; seems like such an empty-head, but then so many people I respect seemed to enjoy talking to him (thinking of his John Lennon interview(s))
Avatar 🎙 Swag For Life Member ♥ 10:33pm
Ike:

I've also gotta thank my parents for dragging me to museums when I was a kid. And also taking me to weird art flicks when I was a teen, like The Double Life of Veronique (no, despite the title, that's not a porno) and the incredibly creepy original version of The Vanishing.
  10:34pm
thesecoronalives:

<-- ..I think Snyder was maybe just *earnest* in his empty-headed-ness..? : - D
  🎙 Swag For Life Member ♥ 10:34pm
Enflod:

Hayden was drunk and stoned the entire time he was on camera for Long Goodbye. He hadn't read the script; all of his scenes were ad-libbed.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 10:35pm
evancuts:

↳ Enflod @10:32
Wikipedia says Upper Montclair. I've lived in Upper Monclair for twenty years and there's no hospital here. Unless he was born at home -- which is totally possible. I'm going to look into this. Thx for the idea!
  10:35pm
Billybob:

I was in high school in the early 70s, but in my years taking American history, we never seemed to get past WWII. Maybe there's just too much American history to get through it all. And 50 years later, there's even more.
  🎙 Swag For Life Member ♥ 10:40pm
Enflod:

Letterman idolized Tom Snyder
  ♥ 10:43pm
Chris Crisco:

Blood Sweat & Tears You Made Me So Very Happy probably the most pretentious lyrics ever I always say sounds like it was written by Tom Snyder.
Avatar 🎙 Swag For Life Member ♥ 10:47pm
Ken From Hyde Park:

Dan Aykroyd did a pretty good Tom Snyder impersonatoin.
  🎙 Swag For Life Member ♥ 10:48pm
Enflod:

↳ Ken From Hyde Park @10:47
👍
  10:48pm
Billybob:

↳ Chris Crisco @10:43
I kinda liked it. Never thought much about the lyrics. I see Berry Gordy and Brenda Holloway wrote it and Holloway was the first to record it
  10:54pm
Carmichael:

Huh? Eh? Know what I?
Avatar 10:56pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

'History' is written by the winners.
I don't think we can *ever* stop learning about the breadths, the depths & the details of how true this is.
The USA was founded upon Manifest Destiny - part of the Colonialism that took the entire Western Hemisphere from First Nations Peoples.
It's wealth was established by Slavery. Our coasts were joined by a railroad built on the exploited labor of Asian immigrants...
The Founding Fathers were rich white male landowning slaverapers - who didn't want to pay tax.
Out Police were established to enforce segregation of the classes & the races
...& that was just the USA getting started.
No - this is not the focus of our Education.
Avatar ♥ 10:57pm
northguineahills:

↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @10:56
if you have an hour, i can expand on that....
Avatar 10:58pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @10:56
...all that Howard Zinn & Noam Chomsky type stuff - 'A Peoples' History of the USA'...
  10:58pm
Billybob:

↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @10:56
Wow, you really hate this country, don't you? 😆
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ Billybob @10:58
Does this country love you ?
Avatar ♥ 11:02pm
northguineahills:

↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @10:58
i don't care for chomsky's non-linguistic work, but zinn is alright (that's me as a historian)
Avatar 🎙 Swag For Life Member ♥ 11:04pm
Ike:

We can love the country despite all the flaws of its history -- love it for what it can aspire to, for its amazing potential. But you have to acknowledge all that ugly history too, otherwise it's all for nothing.
Avatar 11:04pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ Billybob @10:58
'Nationalism is an infantile disease. It is the measles of mankind.'
- Einstein
It seems to have Nationalism - you have to have some powerful control of the Myths.
The USA is large & complicated enuff - it's obviously reductive & false to make it a binary of Love it or Hate it. A lie - obvsly a useful one.
Avatar ♥ 11:04pm
northguineahills:

↳ Song: "Kiss My Dust" by "Turner Williams Jr."
davey williams is was also from montgomery, al, also a great guitarist....
  ♥ 11:06pm
Chris Crisco:

↳ Billybob @10:48
"You've always shown me that loving you is where it's at" said to their significant other by no one ever. I was surprised that David Clayton Thomas didn't write it. I actually like everything else on that BS&T album.
Avatar ♥ 11:06pm
northguineahills:

↳ Ike @11:04
i like the us, doesn't mean i agree w/ the government's decision, current or historical. but i could say the same about any nation (to one degree or another)
  11:06pm
Billybob:

I'm sure any one of a number of Communist, Islamic or third world nations would love you. Whatever faults our country has, you can't deny the greatness of Western ideology---democracy, women's rights, freedom of speech, freedom of religion---this is all Western and American stuff.
  11:07pm
Carmichael:

Is Spinning Wheel on that album?
Avatar ♥ 11:07pm
Jherweg:

I don’t hate America , I love it , hence the dissent and the fight American injustice !
Avatar ♥ 11:08pm
northguineahills:

↳ northguineahills @11:06
i mean, i'm a huge supporter of america in sports, no matter the sport, and have a usa footie jersey to boot...
  11:08pm
Carmichael:

Women’s rights? Like abortion? Religious freedom, like “one nation under”God”?
  ♥ 11:08pm
Chris Crisco:

↳ Carmichael @11:07
It is. And that was written by David Clayton Thomas.
Avatar ♥ 11:09pm
northguineahills:

it's the people i love, not the government.
  11:10pm
Billybob:

↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @11:04
I dunno...everything you posted points to a singular hatred of it.
Avatar 11:12pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

The USA is the prime offender for Craptialist exploitation of Human Beings & Natural Resources - & for Wealth Inequity on the planet - the prime Polluter - the prime Militant Imperialist Bully. The prime creator & seller of Weaponry.
Do you love these things ?
Are they manifestations of this Nation's love ?
  11:12pm
Billybob:

↳ Carmichael @11:08
I just hope you don't support the Palestinians in the current war...a people with no women's rights, no religious freedom.
Avatar 11:13pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ Billybob @11:10
See your reaction to a plain statement of Factual History of the USA.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 11:13pm
chresti:

They're all on the take
Avatar 🎙 Swag For Life Member ♥ 11:16pm
Ike:

↳ Billybob @11:12
Hoo boy, do we really need to start in on the Middle East? Sigh.
  11:16pm
Billybob:

↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @11:12
I dunno, sure seems like a lotta people want to come to this horrible, hateful, imperialist country.
  11:17pm
Carmichael:

The Palestinian people are the victims of war. Don’t confuse them with Hamas, the enemy. They’re getting steamrolled. Their religious beliefs are their beliefs. Don’t criticize what you can’t understand, a guy once sang. America is a laughingstock in many parts of the civilized world recently, and for good reason.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 11:17pm
StringOFperils:

The residents of the Gaza strip are being exterminated like rats. whatever can be said about either 'side', THAT fact is pretty much being broadcast as official policy. If I were there, or anywhere like it, I'd beg to move to the USA, or pretty much anywhere that wasn't the end of the world.
Avatar 11:18pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ Billybob @11:12
So their genocide is something we should get behind. In fact - 'we' - meaning the USA - are behind it to the tune of Billions of tax dollars & unending quantities of weapons of mass destruction.
'Israel' is occupied Palestine - unilaterally established by the British after the War.
Netanyahu is a RightWing militant criminal - already deeply enmeshed in AntiDemocratic scandal & fraud before Oct. 6th - & he has to perpetrate this horrific mass slaughter to sustain his support from the Far Right.
Avatar 🎙 Swag For Life Member ♥ 11:19pm
Aitch:

↳ Song: "Commie Heros" by "Sterling Hayden"
Loving the Stirling, recently re-watched Strangelove
Avatar ♥ 11:19pm
Jherweg:

The contradiction of idolizing commie dictators and wanting to stay at the Plaza aren’t lost on me
  11:20pm
Billybob:

There was a ceasefire prior to 10/7. Who broke it?
  11:23pm
Carmichael:

Hamas, not Palestine. Again, your patriotic zeal has you taking sides in a war on the other side of the globe. You’re yelling at headlines and bumper stickers.
Avatar 11:23pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ Billybob @11:20
Again : Modern PostWar 'Israel' is occupied Palestine. The conflict has always been asymmetrical & unjust. If you were Palestinian - you'd be just as outraged about the apartheid & inequity.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 11:24pm
StringOFperils:

↳ Billybob @11:20
If the Unites States were occupied by an infinitely mightier military forced, brimming with conviction that their mission was sanctioned by a mythological being, and you decided to fight back, would you be evil itself?
  11:25pm
Billybob:

↳ Carmichael @11:23
And you?

I think we all got involved on that horrible day in October. I saw the footage.

As far as Hamas, play stupid games, win stupid prizes. The idea of a ceasefire is ridiculous.
  11:26pm
Billybob:

↳ StringOFperils @11:24
Gaza hadn't been occupied since 2005, except by Hamas
Avatar 11:27pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Bernie Sanders noted - this is not the Israel of Golda Meir of 20 or 30 years ago. Senate Majority Leader Chuck Shumer - the highest ranking Jewish person in the USA - stated Israel has lost its way.
  11:27pm
Carmichael:

I have my hands full fending off unthinking knee jerk patriots.
  11:29pm
Stevel:

Doctors Without Borders is an effective operation. I give them money.
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Franco Twinkie:

↳ Billybob @10:35
October 7th. did more to make people sympathetic to Israel than ever before, and look what happened. From this remove it's a hopeless mess with no end insight.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 11:30pm
StringOFperils:

This is why it's a zero-sum game. Now one will be left there but Israel, and Israel will be a pariah-state as far into the future as I can see. But business will be booming. Jared Kushner's already making noise about lining up investors to turn it into a resort. Built on skulls.
Avatar 11:30pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ Billybob @11:25
You reckon Israeli Intelligence is so weak & poor - they can't tell Hamas from all of Palestine ? From hospitals, women & children, maternity wards being bombed ? From the entire Nation & People either being decimated or forced into relocation (to not established place) ?
  11:31pm
Glistener MW:

I loved that Fred&Luna track! Thanks, JH!
Avatar 11:31pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @11:30
no* established place...
  11:32pm
Frank Talk About Humans:

Ah man, politics on a holiday???
  11:32pm
Sensisio:

Just said Hey to Jane Goodall, very cool! at EWR she'll be in town a few!
Good show
  11:33pm
Frank Talk About Humans:

Like it or not, we are getting Trump again
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 11:33pm
StringOFperils:

↳ Frank Talk About Humans @11:32
Easter holiday. My God why have you forsaken me? And all that.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 11:33pm
Franco Twinkie:

Fights were breaking out all over the world before dessert was served tonight.
  11:33pm
Carmichael:

Franco, how was The Kid?
  11:33pm
Billybob:

↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @11:30
Hamas is mingled with the Gazan people. That's their doing.
Avatar ♥ 11:34pm
spodiodi:

greetings, Jonathan and all
Avatar 11:34pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

& it's the 'Holy Land' of three major religions that throws the whole world into conflict over who gets the lease.
  ♥ 11:35pm
Chris Crisco:

↳ Chris Crisco @11:06
Well no one other than maybe Tom Snyder anyway.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 11:35pm
Franco Twinkie:

↳ Carmichael @11:33
Fantastic. We continued the conversation we're been having for more that fifty years without missing a beat.
  11:35pm
Carmichael:

Nice critical analysis, billybob. Your response is, “It’s hard to tell the difference”?
Avatar 11:36pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ Billybob @11:33
& the RightWing fascists & Occupiers are mingled with the Israeli people. & the CIA conspirators in the Middle East justify killing people in the World Trade Centers. Is that right ?
Avatar 🎙 Swag For Life Member ♥ 11:36pm
Scott_Oz:

↳ Franco Twinkie @11:35
Sounds great Franco!
🍻😎🤙💨🍺
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 11:37pm
Franco Twinkie:

↳ Carmichael @11:35
How do you tell the difference? They don't exactly wear team jerseys.
  🎙 Swag For Life Member ♥ 11:39pm
Enflod:

Why is it that, for a few weeks now, when the next show starts at midnight, the wrong show is always listed?
  ♥ 11:40pm
Chris Crisco:

Let's keep in mind that Hamas is not just Palestinian resistance but Islamic resistance as well. As such they are at war with not just occupiers (if you want to use that loaded term) but infidels as well. That is to say pretty much the entire world. Jews of course being cursed on both scores. Anyone who wants Hamas to gain control of Israel's nukes needs to have their head examined. That said Bibi is rotten to the core as well and needs to go.
Avatar 11:40pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ Franco Twinkie @11:37
Israeli Intelligence is known worldwide for its effectiveness & power.
Five figures of people dead - half women & children - everyone displaced
...all Hamas. Right ?
Its genocide - they lie about it - & Bibi is doing it to deflect from his other crimes & to keep support from the Right in Israel.
Avatar 🎙 Swag For Life Member ♥ 11:41pm
Aitch:

↳ Enflod @11:39
Interference by foreign operatives
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spodiodi:

↳ Aitch @11:41
LOLOL
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...'Israel' being occupied Palestine *in the first place*.
Avatar ♥ 11:41pm
spodiodi:

oops, sorry, the caps were an accident
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 11:42pm
StringOFperils:

Bibi's pretty up-front about it I'd say. His 'realpolitik' is like Kissinger's. The numbers add up to everyone has to die.
  11:42pm
Carmichael:

&Franco, I don’t because I don’t take sides. I feel for the innocent victims. Unfortunately, some people think it’s a just and righteous killing, and jump in refereeing to everyone else.
Avatar 11:44pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

One is not a fan of either Imperialism or Terrorism.
But one came first. One is asymmetrically greater by far. One the USA has always supported with vast tax expenditure & great weaponry.
& the other not so much.
  11:44pm
Billybob:

↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @11:41
So...get rid of the Israelis? Is that what you want to happen? 'Cuz you know that's what would happen
  11:44pm
Frank Talk About Humans:

The station has really gone downhill since COVID. There were never politics on a Sunday evening, and subsequent heated exchanges in the chat before.
  ♥ 11:44pm
Chris Crisco:

↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @11:41
Everyone likes throwing that loaded term around. No doubt there is some truth in it but if you are living on land stolen from Native Americans or here in New Zealand from Maoris aren't we occupiers as well?
Avatar 11:45pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ Chris Crisco @11:44
Yes - we ARE.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @11:45
...it's called Colonialism.
That the thing exactly.
Avatar ♥ 11:46pm
spodiodi:

we are pigs
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 11:46pm
StringOFperils:

↳ Chris Crisco @11:44
When they come for you and yours, will you be as complacent about it?
Avatar 11:47pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ Chris Crisco @11:44
The difference being the Jewish people do have a history in the region. As do the Palestinians.
  ♥ 11:49pm
Chris Crisco:

↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @11:45
Ok so then unless we are prepared to turn over whatever property we own to those who was stolen from then it is hypocritical to single out Israel don't you think.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 11:49pm
Franco Twinkie:

The United States will continue supporting Israel until the end of time. It guarantees we have a powerful allie in a part of the world where everyone hates us. A million dead Palestinians, oh well.
Avatar Swag For Life Member ♥ 11:49pm
Franco Twinkie:

↳ Chris Crisco @11:49
Exactly.
Avatar 11:50pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ Chris Crisco @11:49
Conversely - the Israeli argument would be - you got to commit genocide & seize your Land - we have the same Right in the Present. Nice argument.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ Franco Twinkie @11:49
& ...that's who the USA is.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ Franco Twinkie @11:49
Also ...Oil.
  ♥ 11:51pm
Chris Crisco:

↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @11:47
It cannot be denied that Zionist terrorism played a significant role in the formation of Israel and Palestinians were displaced as a result.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @11:51
- which was my point to begin with.
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javakid:

↳ Song: "The Excuse of Fiction" by "C. Diab"
really like this. channels vini reilly
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Franco Twinkie:

↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @11:50
The IDF does not recognize nice as concept for winning.
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Ken From Hyde Park:

Thanks, Jonathan. The human condition remains, as always, blurred.
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Enflod:

Love Bronson Pinchot in After Hours
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Chris Crisco:

↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @11:50
The present being 75 years ago as opposed to 250? Where exactly do you draw the line?
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @11:51
If the Oil weren't in the region - the USA would not have screwed around there.
Oil - that thing that's poisoning the World.
& - that's who the USA is.
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northguineahills:

danks, jonathan!
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ Chris Crisco @11:53
In that sentence the Present means Today & Tomorrow in Gaza.
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northguineahills:

↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @11:12
there are much worst offenders.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

~ TY Always DJ JH ~
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spodiodi:

thanks, Jonathan
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StringOFperils:

Thomas Hobbes described 'the war of all against all." And 'the social contract' was a proposal that any parties involved must forfeit some of their insistent desires in order to replace ultimate chaos, which would be the alternative. Reluctant consensus is the only thing standing between very difficult stasis and 'safety' and the world of The Walking Dead.
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Franco Twinkie:

Happy Eater everyone...whatever that's worth.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ northguineahills @11:55
No. We're the Worst for all those things.
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Scott_Oz:

Thanks JH! 🍻😎🤙💨🍺
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chresti:

Thanks Jonathan!
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Chris Crisco:

↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @11:54
Sharon withdrew from Gaza in 2005. Palestinians reciprocated by electing the known terrorist group whose claim to fame is introducing the suicide bomber to the world. Hamas then proceeded to spend all its resources on weapons and tunnels.
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Ïke:

Cheers!
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northguineahills:

↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @11:56
i beg to disagree. we just have resources to do on a large scale. but there are others that do worse w/ less.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

↳ northguineahills @11:57
We *are* the Largest. If not the most people.
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StringOFperils:

Thank you, JH! Work for love everybody.
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northguineahills:

↳ Revolution Rabbit Nov63 @11:58
largest gdp, third largest pop.
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spodiodi:

↳ StringOFperils @11:59
hear, hear
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Corey:

Glad kendraplex is dropping sick music right now
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