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Familiar & forgotten gems from 50-plus years of music on the darker side, shoegaze, synthpop, goth, psychedelia, darkwave, with unapologetic detours into 70s pop. In a dark night of the soul, it's always 3 o'clock in the morning.

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Suzi Quatro  In The Dark   Favoriting The Devil In Me  SPV  2021   
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Miranda Sex Garden  Without Trace   Favoriting Carnival of Souls  Cleopatra  2000   
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Syd Barrett  Late Night   Favoriting The Best of Syd Barrett -- Wouldn't You Miss Me?  Harvest  2001  from 1970 
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Robyn Hitchcock  You and Oblivion   Favoriting Moss Elixir  Warner Bros.  1996   
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Gary Numan  The Calling   Favoriting Splinter (Songs From A Broken Mind)  Mortal Records  2013   
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Babacar  Mantra   Favoriting Babacar  Mesmer  1997   
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Scars  Obsession   Favoriting Author! Author!  PRE Records  1981   
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Gary Numan 

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Olivia Newton-John  Rosewater   Favoriting Music Makes My Day  Pye  1973   
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Buckingham Nicks  Sorcerer (demo)   Favoriting Coffee Plant Demos  No Label  1973   
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David Bowie  Starman   Favoriting The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars  RCA Victor  1972   
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AWOL  Heart Flag   Favoriting AWOL (EP)  Purity Music  1984  featuring Moby 
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Lisa Germano  Sycophant (Ivo Version)   Favoriting Inconsiderate Bitch  4AD  1994   
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Tremosphere  Shadow Dance   Favoriting Memoirs Of A French Garden  Slugg Records  2022   
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Vitamin String Quartet  Where Is My Mind (instrumental)   Favoriting           1:05:46 (Pop-up)
Elton John  Amoreena live)   Favoriting Live at the Fillmore West, 11.12.70  London Calling  2021   
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Cocteau Twins  Garlands   Favoriting Garlands  4AD  1982   
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Skinner Box  Drowning Street   Favoriting Skinner Box  Fundamental, Bobok  1988  https://skinnerbox2.bandcamp.com/ 
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Joy Division  Decades   Favoriting Closer  Factory  1980   
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Genesis  Fireside Song   Favoriting From Genesis to Revelation  Decca  1969   
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Nico  Evening of Light   Favoriting The Marble Index  Elektra  1968   
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Opal  Magick Power   Favoriting Happy Nightmare Baby  SST Records  1987   
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Affinity  Mr. Joy   Favoriting Affinity  Paramount Records  1970   
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Kate Bush  Delius (Song of Summer)   Favoriting Never For Ever  EMI  1980   
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Syd Barrett 

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My Bloody Valentine  Loomer   Favoriting Loveless  Sire, Creation  1991   
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Listener comments!

Avatar 6:34pm
HyperDose:

Hey Julie. Can't wait for tonight's festivities!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:00pm
Scott67:

G'day Julie & Day Nights/ Night Days!
🌏☀️📻🎶🍻😎🤙💨🌻🦜🦜🦜
Avatar 🦇 10:01pm
Julie:

Hiya Scott!
Avatar 10:01pm
Flash Strap:

take it away Julie!
Avatar 🦇 10:01pm
Julie:

thanks Flash!
  10:02pm
neveract:

Hi Julie & DNOTS'rs
Avatar 🦇 10:02pm
Julie:

hi neveract!
Avatar 🦇 Swag For Life Member 10:04pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Don't associate SuzyQ with that kinda track @ all. Works totally.
Avatar 🦇 10:05pm
Julie:

hiya Rev! She really has pretty much everything in her extensive catalog
Avatar 10:06pm
Roberto:

Funny thing, her name is Quatro and her instrument of choice has quatro strings.
Avatar 🦇 Swag For Life Member 10:07pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...seeing photos of MirandaSG out Doing It now all the time in my fb feed...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:07pm
Scott67:

I have a sudden interest in Gardening!
Avatar 🦇 10:07pm
Julie:

@Rev wow really? I knew they were playing in UK but I guess no one I know has gone to see them.
Avatar 🦇 Swag For Life Member 10:09pm
Ken From Hyde Park:

Hello, Julie and flambés.
Avatar 🦇 Swag For Life Member 10:09pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

GENIUS
Avatar 🦇 10:09pm
Julie:

hiya Ken!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:10pm
Franco Twinkie:

Hi Julie!
Avatar 🦇 10:10pm
Julie:

hi Franco!
Avatar 🦇 Swag For Life Member 10:11pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

GENIUS (Jr.)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:12pm
Franco Twinkie:

This is perfect for two people who are out of there skulls.
Avatar 🦇 10:13pm
Julie:

@Franco that was kind of my plan tonight.. I mean not that particular phrasing..but gently trippy I guess?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:13pm
chresti:

Hi Julie and blue night souls!
Avatar 🦇 Swag For Life Member 10:13pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Have described Hitchcock as a SydBarrett that wasn't mad.
Avatar 🦇 10:14pm
Julie:

hi chresti! I often wonder what Robyn would be like if Syd had not come first. Very heavy influence for sure.
Avatar 🦇 10:14pm
Julie:

Robyn has his own sort of madness but it is a fun genial kind
Avatar 10:15pm
northguineahills:

@Julie: so, you're microdosing us tonight?
Avatar 🦇 Swag For Life Member 10:15pm
Aitch:

Cool Dark Blue Night of the Flaming Soul I presume?
Avatar 🦇 10:16pm
Julie:

hiya Aitch & Hey NGH Yes something like that?
Avatar 10:16pm
Roberto:

Robyn's really into his cats, as if he weren't already cool enough on the basis of his creative output.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:16pm
Franco Twinkie:

While I was making soup and chapati, Chresti went to the dispensary and got some wicked drops. I'm seen colors.
Avatar 🦇 10:16pm
Julie:

yes! The cats are GREAT I love the cats
Avatar 🦇 10:17pm
Julie:

@Franco do tell, what are they called?
Avatar 10:18pm
northguineahills:

missed this gary numan when it came out....
Avatar 🦇 10:19pm
Julie:

he's back on tour...mostly west coast though I think
Avatar 🦇 10:19pm
Julie:

GREAT live, if you can go, go
Avatar 🦇 10:20pm
Julie:

this sound has a cat-like quality...the synth strings
Avatar 🦇 Swag For Life Member 10:21pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Thot the Numan voice was Billy Corgan arf a mo...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:21pm
Franco Twinkie:

Chresti and I saw Robyn at Amoeba Records in Hollywood. He did an acoustic set.
Avatar 🦇 Swag For Life Member 10:21pm
Aitch:

Saw Gary N do Pleasure Principle as a 40 yr anniversary or whatever.
Sounded as you'd expect, after he'd got through that he went in to his latest stuff like this one.
Absolutely blasted the house down.
Like NIN but darker, a good surprise
Avatar 🦇 Swag For Life Member 10:22pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Robyn's tween song banter has had me seeing things on the way home...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:23pm
chresti:

They're called Pink Boost [30ml] (225mg THC/125mg THCV) tincture-
About this product
"A spirit shifting formulation, this collaboration with Emerald Spirit Botanicals combines the unique THCV-rich genetics of Pink Boost Goddess with wildcrafted herbs and plants grown on our family farms to encourage introspection, joy and wonder.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:24pm
chresti:

*from the description
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:24pm
Franco Twinkie:

I'd say that's no idle boast.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:25pm
Franco Twinkie:

I'm dancing like underwater plants.
Avatar 🦇 Swag For Life Member 10:25pm
Aitch:

Do you have the whole thing?
Seems like a lot
Avatar 🦇 10:25pm
Julie:

wow that sounds great, chresti.
Avatar 🦇 10:25pm
Julie:

@aitch I had the same thought
Avatar 🦇 Swag For Life Member 10:26pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Lordy. Haven't even smoked pot since 1987 believe it or not. They keep legalizing it I may just fo there again... How I loved the combo of being stoned & Musics...
Avatar 🦇 Swag For Life Member 10:26pm
Aitch:

^a match made in heaven
Avatar 🦇 10:27pm
Julie:

I gotta say...I can really hear the separate instruments when I'm high. and boy has it fixed my insomnia but good
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:27pm
chresti:

cornerstone.treez.io...
Avatar 🦇 Swag For Life Member 10:27pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Somewhere - heaven possibly. Both come under Shiva I was told...
  10:27pm
Phillippe Bastille:

Howdy
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:28pm
chresti:

Hi Philllipppe!
Avatar 🦇 10:28pm
Julie:

hi Phillippe!
Avatar 🦇 Swag For Life Member 10:29pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Ours boys looking full 1981 NewRomantic with a touch of NeoPsych mayhaps.
Avatar 🦇 Swag For Life Member 10:30pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...Mesoamerican (Aztec) affectations...
Avatar 🦇 10:30pm
Julie:

this whole album is a thing of beauty
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:31pm
chresti:

Music plus pot all the way
Avatar 🦇 Swag For Life Member 10:31pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...but so is my Tar...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:32pm
Richy4619:

I concur, chresti
  10:33pm
Phillippe Bastille:

Hey chresti!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:34pm
chresti:

Hi Richy!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:35pm
chresti:

Scars look like they're 15
Avatar 🦇 10:36pm
Julie:

hi Richy!
Avatar 🦇 Swag For Life Member 10:38pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Well - nobody's ever exposed me to Scars before that I recall. Loves the "NeoPsychedelia' yerknow...
Avatar 10:39pm
Roberto:

Had to restart, my laptop was having a seizure.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:39pm
Scott67:

Livvy!💜
Avatar 🦇 10:39pm
Julie:

wb Roberto! Honestly Author Author has no badsongs on it, though that might part be nostalgia for me
Avatar 10:39pm
northguineahills:

nice and thunderly down here (usually a good combo w/ Julie)
Avatar 🦇 10:40pm
Julie:

@scott one of her originals too!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:43pm
Franco Twinkie:

It's twilight on the west coast. I went outside to stare at the sky, but wound up watching my neighbor fix his truck in the street. Anything can be interesting if you're high enough.
Avatar 🦇 10:44pm
Julie:

@Franco INDEED. that particularly explains some popular tv shows
  10:44pm
Nick:

Oh, I am late.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:44pm
Franco Twinkie:

Ha!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:44pm
Richy4619:

hi y'all! so true, franco.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:45pm
Franco Twinkie:

Richy! Fogged in tonight?
  10:45pm
Nick:

If only my neighbor knew how to fix my truck.
(Thrown rods blown head gasket oil flooded up out the carbeurator and ruined the air filter.) (It's a Ford.)
  10:46pm
Dean:

Did you get those ONJ shows?
Avatar 🦇 10:46pm
Julie:

hiya Nick! Yes you are but still time..@Dean! Rats I keep forgetting to DL them...I'll do it right after the show. It's been on my mind but never when I'm at the computer.
  10:46pm
Nick:

But thats not why late. I was listening to your show from april in the archive.
Avatar 🦇 Swag For Life Member 10:47pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

A special kind of Forgetting. Out of your own way more. People who haven't been stoned misunderstand & fear it so. I just got tired of being stoned but not high. & the whole cops & robbers thing of legality - who needs that... & yerknow thot - I'm that drifty shaved out kinda person already - let the rest catch up & all that...
Avatar 🦇 10:48pm
Julie:

@Nick oh cool! why that one?
  10:48pm
Nick:

Shrug the cops out here seem very um chill, about that. Different climate I guess.
Avatar 🦇 Swag For Life Member 10:48pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

*spaced out (haha)
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:48pm
Richy4619:

franco, you know it. but i'm not complaining. just got back from a road trip around the PNW. the east side of the cascades was scorching hot while the coastline is coated in cool wet gray skies
Avatar 🦇 Swag For Life Member 10:48pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

& different times now too.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:49pm
Franco Twinkie:

Ahh!
  10:49pm
Nick:

Julie, because I tried to look for the link for tonights show and it was right there on google to click on. ^_^
Avatar 🦇 10:50pm
Julie:

I posted it on twitter silly!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:50pm
Dano59:

RR63: saw this the other day from Mitch Easter, in a FaceBorg comment-thread debate on 'Licorice Pizza':
I guess due to my extensive LSD use I don’t always need things to “make sense”.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:51pm
Richy4619:

i got stoned with my buds on some craggy rocks along a massive glacial crest at Paradise on Mt. Rainier. watching the snow melt and the waterfalls mesmorized
Avatar 🦇 10:52pm
Julie:

oh that sounds nice!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:52pm
Richy4619:

getting stoned was not the highlight actually, the mountain was fully glorious all its own!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:52pm
Franco Twinkie:

Drugs & nature - can't beat that with a stick!
  10:53pm
Nick:

Checking twitter now :-/. Regret already.
Avatar 10:53pm
Roberto:

I was born same day as Moby. So he was young AF on that track.
Avatar 🦇 Swag For Life Member 10:53pm
Aitch:

Crazed builder mate said to never trust anyone's opinion if they didn't have enough veins in their eyes.
IE not enough life experience to be taken seriously
Avatar 🦇 10:53pm
Julie:

I like to look at nature but I don't really like to be in it. Bugs...dirt...sun..ew
Avatar 🦇 Swag For Life Member 10:53pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Had my share of acid too - including a friend with liquid diluted in a visine bottle. Plentiful - pure - potent & could control your dosage. It won't get better than that.
Avatar 🦇 10:53pm
Julie:

@roberto yep like 17 I think
Avatar 10:54pm
Roberto:

Either 18 or 19, if it was recorded in '84.
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:54pm
Dano59:

i love Lisa Germano. so so much
Avatar 🦇 10:54pm
Julie:

I've never taken anything where I see colors...sad... @roberto sounds about right. He was either in or just out of high school.
Avatar 🦇 10:54pm
Julie:

@dano Hi there. ME TOO!
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:55pm
Franco Twinkie:

I saw Lisa Germano at this exact moment with Kendra Smith at McCabes in Santa Monica. The show was called All Virgos Are Mad.
  10:55pm
Nick:

Oh. Never tried acid.
One of the former mennonites I know uses it nightly.
She said it is different.
Avatar 🦇 10:55pm
Julie:

I had already liked her and then her going to 4AD made it perfect
Avatar 10:55pm
northguineahills:

sneaking into a state park to go for a dark night swim at the beach on acid is always a fun night....
Avatar 🦇 10:55pm
Julie:

@franco that was the name of a 4AD comp...might even have been a fundraiser
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:56pm
Franco Twinkie:

Really!? I had no idea.
Avatar 🦇 Swag For Life Member 10:57pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

The singer-songwriter from Bloomington who condescended to be in a basement band with us here in Lebanon, NewHampshire had been Germano's Bass Player on Tour. Yet I'm quite uninformed of her.
Avatar 🦇 10:57pm
Julie:

all the best folks www.discogs.com...
Avatar Swag For Life Member 10:57pm
Franco Twinkie:

I still have the ticket stub. That's the only way I remember.
Avatar 🦇 Swag For Life Member 10:57pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...but I knew the All Virgos Are Mad poster...
Avatar 🦇 10:57pm
Julie:

She played live on Irwin's show back then
Avatar 🦇 Swag For Life Member 10:59pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Was def all about 4AD just then.
Avatar 🦇 11:01pm
Julie:

this coulda been on 4AD
Avatar 🦇 11:02pm
Julie:

australians it's like noon there?
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:03pm
Dano59:

Julie: yes. Both versions of Happiness, plus OP8, Love Circus, Moon Palace, and when she played with Mellencamp.
Avatar 🦇 Swag For Life Member 11:04pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...& Germano played violin on John Cougar trax ...so I'm two or three degrees of separation from him ? Harhar...
Avatar 🦇 11:04pm
Julie:

Geek the Girl is a trip
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:07pm
chresti:

Tremosphere reminded me of Vox Popul! a little
Avatar 🦇 Swag For Life Member 11:07pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

[websearch] ...oh she played with Bowie - all sorts.
  11:11pm
Nick:

Okay. Caught up on the twitter. Julie you had colorful hair before?
Avatar 🦇 11:12pm
Julie:

yeah I had like four different colors at one point it was subtle though not bright
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:13pm
Dano59:

wow! a (near) 11-17-70 flashback! (rec. at the Troubador?)
Avatar 11:14pm
HyperDose:

Wow, haven't heard a Vitamin String Quartet tune in a while!
Avatar 🦇 11:14pm
Julie:

@dano alas there aren't recordings from the troubadour but there are others from that year. Tonight is the anniversary of THE Troubadour show
Avatar 🦇 11:14pm
Julie:

@HD you ain't been here I used a couple as bed music quite often
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Julie:

@HD hi by the way, wasn't sure you'd made it back
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:15pm
Dano59:

I think the lineage of fiddle players in JCM's band went something like Lisa G. > Mindy Jostyn > Cyndi Cashdollar?
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HyperDose:

I was grooving along in the shower haha
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:16pm
Dano59:

I just remember the 11-17-70 album from my all-in teenage elton john fandom
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Julie:

@Dano wow you know your mellencamp.. only other band member I could name is Kenny Aronoff and he played with EVERYONE
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:16pm
Franco Twinkie:

I wonder who else was on the bill. The Fillmore shows were very eclectic.
Avatar 🦇 11:16pm
Julie:

@Dano yes that is a WONDERFUL album
  11:17pm
Nick:

That april show had an elton song but "this song has no name" i think it was.
Avatar 11:17pm
HyperDose:

Used to have JCM's Scarecrow on cassette. Played the hell out of it
Avatar 🦇 11:18pm
Julie:

rain on the scarecrow, blood on the plow
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northguineahills:

I was just perusing the 4AD pages for all of the Cocteau Twin releases.....
Avatar 🦇 11:20pm
Julie:

oh I couldn't leave THEM out of a show like this
Avatar 11:21pm
northguineahills:

well, it wasn't happenstance, all of the 4AD talk above and this being your show, i got curious of the rereleases and rarities i might have missed.
Avatar 🦇 11:22pm
Julie:

Cocteaus BBC Sessions is a must have
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Julie:

they put out so many EP's they don't really have any bonus stuff for the albums to reissue with
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:22pm
Dano59:

Julie - I think the JCM thing was mainly focused on Lisa. I missed seeing her live with him, saw the other two though. Brought a drummer friend the second time, who was all about Kenny.
Avatar 11:24pm
northguineahills:

When I discovered the Cocteau Twins in the mid 90s, i gorged on mostly EPs and remixes for some reason.
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Julie:

there is a great EP box set
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:25pm
Richy4619:

☆゚*·。゚* · ♪ ♬*·。゚* · ◠ ౪ ◠
Avatar 🦇 11:26pm
Julie:

is that....an ascii BAT
Avatar 11:26pm
northguineahills:

decades is perfect.....
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Julie:

a very harpsichordy synth sound there...WOW
Avatar Swag For Life Member 11:27pm
Richy4619:

yes! it is now that i see it so.
Avatar 🦇 11:28pm
Julie:

gottammm this is good
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HyperDose:

A side of Joy Division I'm not that familiar with
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Julie:

This is the posthumous album
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Julie:

I don't know how much was tinkered with after Ian died
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northguineahills:

everything julie said....
Avatar 11:29pm
HyperDose:

Mostly finished work or demos and b-sides that were scrapped together?
Avatar 🦇 11:30pm
Julie:

oh I think it was relatively done they didn't scrape till later
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northguineahills:

it was a studio album...
Avatar 🦇 11:31pm
Julie:

yes. it was going to be the next album already. I just wonder how many extra touches were added
Avatar 🦇 11:32pm
Julie:

it's definitely less raw than the prior work, so I wonder if that was an intentional direction or a hey Ian's gone let's spiffy this up situation
Avatar 🦇 Swag For Life Member 11:32pm
Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

More Synths in NewOrder & such.
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northguineahills:

Yeah, it was the album they were going to tour the US w/...
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HyperDose:

Oh Curtis didn't even live to see the release of Love Will Tear Us Apart. Damn that's sad.
Avatar 🦇 11:32pm
Julie:

yes it could've been a real progression
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Ken From Hyde Park:

We need "director's cut" subtitles or something with commentary on what was added or altered to the songs.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Whut ? That's crazy. Haven't seen the docudrama obviously... Know he hung himself rather than tour the USA.
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Julie:

Like Drake, he never got to see his stuff really blow up
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Aitch:

Movement the first New Order record shows where the music was headed, the Ceremony single the kind of last / first JD NO
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Julie:

I like New Order okay but they just don't DO it like JD does
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northguineahills:

I think my first deep dive was deborah curtis' "touching from a distance", i think i was 19 when i read it.
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Aitch:

especially after the first couple
  11:37pm
Dean:

I learned of the suicide while standing on line (with Todd Rundgren!) at Mann's Chinese Theater on Hollywood Blvd. for the premier of The Shining. We had been planning to go to the West Coast shows, and so we were mighty disappointed.

But to my taste Curtis was the weak link of the band. I acquired all of their early stuff as it was released, but by the mid-'80s I'd unloaded it all, including the rare French single of "Dead Souls," which is perhaps my favorite song of their.. I now have a sampling of New Order, no Joy Division. No regrets.
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northguineahills:

true dat, aitch w/ ceremony....
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Ken From Hyde Park:

Speaking of ... here we have a version of "Blue Monday" - www.bbc.co.uk...
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...intersting comparison. Narrative I've put together for Ian is that being an ever more popular & engaged Front Man for a Rawk band - & being progressively epileptic - were an impossible combination. Drake just crapped out on playing Live & promoting @ all... & I guess Cobain is one where the full Popularity landed square on his head & crushed him flat...
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Dano59:

Tuesday: saw a girl in a Joy Division 'Steely Dan' shirt at the deli, then a guy in the Wilco show food line with a Sonic Youth 'Steely Dan' shirt. Blew my mind.
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Dano59:

Opal and Rain Parade can never get too much love
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Julie:

that's weird...no actual steely dan shirts?
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Rollins with :
...' a tremendous second hour with Joy Division’s 1978 Arrow Studios RCA Sessions '...
This is the album Joy Division did *before* their 'first album'
- because they had to change labels & it wasn't released :
www.kcrw.com...
- will be still too 'Punk' for many but that's kinda what I like about it.
Can't relate to Ian being the weak link - the Writing & Singing & Presence. Admire New Order for persisting as something different.
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Dano59:

I'm sure wearing one would just be ironic.
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Julie:

I'll check the link out later...would that not be Warsaw?
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Speaking of NeoPsych. The West Coast folks...
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...one of the songs is 'Warsaw' - not sure where the line crossed for bandname...
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Aitch:

The Warsaw Record is great, rough as guts.
Finally got an actual LP of it just recently as a re-issue
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Richy4619:

♬*·。゚ ◠ ౪ ◠ ◠౪◠ 。゚* · ♪
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

'Paisley Underground' ...scoured my brain for the term came up zero...
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Aitch:

Transmission and Shadowplay both on Warsaw, a couple of their better efforts
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Dean:

I understand that Ian Curtis was charismatic and commanded attention. I, too, appreciated it. But New Order (to me, if I have to make the explicit qualification) is a genuinely inventive band, talented and focused on, essentially, pop that works. Joy Division was vaguely about a mood expressed by a so-so vocalist and a band that wanted to spring out of punk into something more brooding. But as I hear them, they were mostly a one trick pony: brood, brood, brood. My guess is that New Order were sadly relieved to be free of that tenor.
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Aitch:

But Bernie can't sing at all
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Roberto:

Nice deep Kate kut!
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Julie:

he either has an emotional effect on you, or not.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

So ...what do NewOrder have to say as relevant or memorable? There's 'BlueMonday' - which I'm gathering was practically JoyDivision anyway ...then what? Some dancey synthpop that's relatively featureless, dated & disposable ?
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Julie:

I wish she'd expanded on it a little more, I feel like it could go more places
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

'Temptation' is a great song ...I mean - if you can say that I can say this...
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Scott67:

Thanks Julie! splendid stuff mate.🍻😎🤙❤️🦜
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Franco Twinkie:

Drat! Missed Kendra by an inch,
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northguineahills:

thanks, Julie!!!
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HyperDose:

Thanks Julie. The night shows are always fun!
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Nick:

Oh no. Its almost midnight.
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Dean:

I don't hold pop or rock musicians to a standard of relevant or memorable meaning. I adore lots of groups the meaning of whose work is irrelevant and forgettable. I mean, Pilot, "Magic"!
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Aitch:

Day / month / year just about everywhere except USA.
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Franco Twinkie:

Thank you Julie. Truly enjoyable.
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

Well - 'Bird Is the Word' is relevant & memorable - as I use the terms...
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northguineahills:

then why do I do year/month/day?
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Julie:

A good pop song is STILL a good pop song.
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Julie:

thanks for listening everyone!
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Dean:

Not "still," but "ipso facto"!
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Ken From Hyde Park:

Thanks, Julie. Take care!
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Julie:

see ya sunday or tuesday or just next time
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chresti:

Thanks Julie!
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Aitch:

The goodness thereof transcends everything.
Always a joy Julie, thanks
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

...Ian happened to also be fairly deep.
~ TY Always DJ Julie ~
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Julie:

@Dean yes I mean, people dismiss pop but it does its job
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Julie:

I always have at least a little confection in my shows
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Dano59:

that's what I always say, alog with: "there's a reason popular music is popular".
thanks so much Julie! lots of inspiration and music love tonight
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Julie:

night everyone!
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Revolution Rabbit Nov63:

'She Loves You' is as relevant & memorable as anything ever. Not what I meant really.
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Richy4619:

perhaps they should rename them New Brooder
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