WFMU: Brian Turner: Playlist from November 5, 2013

Listener comments!
	3:04pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ~~~~☯~~~~ >>>>✌<<<< !!!!!!!!◉!!!!!!!!
	3:05pm Cheri Pi: This sounds about right.
	3:05pm Rev. Turnip Druid: What Bailey said.
	3:06pm DCE: well howwwwdy
	3:07pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...when invoking Metatron in the Sahara - remember to drink copious amounts of water...
	3:08pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...so this is where Beefheart stole it from...
	3:09pm βrian: Turquoise!
	3:12pm tim from champaign: The Captain had to have been hip to Saharan music. The vocals on this particular cut and the guitar playing on many other Saharan songs has the Magic Band playing.
	3:15pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...bust w/ the Hedge Funds 1% !!
	3:15pm joe: 'ello folks
	3:16pm common: nice delay!
	3:20pm Cheri Pi: 'ello Joe
	3:23pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ☆ complete 1st set.
	3:27pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: FMU is gonna have a public performance space!
	3:28pm Hambone: hey, which Terry Riley record did you mention? you compared it to the track from the sahel sounds label.
	3:28pm DCE: work grief...entered 149 names on an authorization requesty thingy and it freezes up on the very last one...
	3:29pm DCE: ...on the other hand, I have cookies.
	3:29pm Cheri Pi: This guy sounds like Fred AND Toody
	3:30pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - ah DCE - computers - can't live w/ 'em...& - can't live w/ 'em...& their cookies...
	3:33pm tim from champaign: Is this "Butt Town"?
	3:35pm Cheri Pi: LOL tfC
	3:35pm Cheri Pi: Nice save BT.
	3:35pm Chris from DC: This gets a clicky pentagram.
	3:37pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ✠✬✠
	3:41pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡ ◉L◉]] _M_
	3:42pm fred: This is nice (Merzbow Microkosmos) I'm going to have to spend more than a week without seeing a live show, which is cruel and unusual for this time of year
	3:43pm northguineahills: wow, this is awesome! (merzboz microkosmos)
	3:46pm zeer: Autechre too
	3:49pm braveness23: Listening to Autechre actually sent me to the hospital once. No joke.
	3:49pm DCE: brain-glitch?
	3:51pm zeer: mh, what do you think: is Nyogthaeblisz some kind of nsbm?
	3:52pm DCE: this bird IS rather ominous
	3:52pm Cheri Pi: In the auld days our brains couldn't process drum and bass without a helpful seizure or 2 to soften the blow.
	3:52pm braveness23: No I was extremely sick with Crohn's disease and the nausea was overwhelming. I was at a friends house (I should have been in bed...) and he put on Autechre. The shrill and glitchy intensity was more than I could handle.
	3:52pm fred: @b23: care to elaborate? I'm willing to trade my own musical hospital story
	3:54pm braveness23: My ex-wife and I turned Autechre into an adjective and that tradition carries on to this day in my house. Playing Autechre is simply forbidden in our home.
	3:57pm fred: OK, here's mine, much lighter: I once woke after surgery with the TV on and blaring. Cartoons first, then the French version of American Idol. Nothing horrible at first, but then they started singing. Seeing me standing on the bed trying to reach the off button with a pen while restrained by the IV drip, a nurse said I was awake enough to be released. Bonus track: once I got home I watched the Jandek DVD.
	3:58pm common: good one, fred!
	3:59pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - the image would make a great cartoon fred !
	4:00pm braveness23: LOL Love it! So in your case the music caused you to be discharged. For me it caused me to be admitted.
	4:01pm northguineahills: the only thing forbidden in my pad by my gf is post-60s Country, Classic Rock, and 90s House. She doesn't complain about anything else. Heck, we were vibing to Metal Machine Music Sunnite.
	4:01pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...together in a cartoon.
	4:02pm northguineahills: ( I meant, post 1960 Country)
	4:02pm northguineahills: Sounds like the beginning of a better day, Fred!
	4:03pm fred: I did think about a clockwork orange there, and had to laugh when I realized most people would have opposite choices re Jandek vs. "talent" shows
	4:03pm braveness23: I solve the musical divide by sneaking things on to her MP3 player so she hears them on her own and thinks that she discovered them. But we agree to agree on Autechre
	4:06pm Mike East: anybody feel like helping to settle an office debate: which has the better bassline: Billie Jean or I Want You Back?
	4:06pm Rev. Turnip Druid: Just catching up here: B23 @ 3:54, that is HIGH-LARIOUS.
	4:09pm anne: Billie Jean--fer sher.
	4:10pm Rev. Turnip Druid: Mike East: the answer is, naturally, De Futura by Magma. Was it one of the two choices? No, but we can call that an editorial oversight.
	4:10pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - basslines: how come cars w/ titanic Subwoofers never play Bach organ or John Entwistle ? Yerknow - not one ever...
	4:11pm braveness23: Yeah, Billy Jean
	4:12pm braveness23: In the summertime I drive around blasting Einstürzende Neubauten. I turn it up when I am stopped at lights near brothers blasting their thumping subwoofers
	4:12pm fred: I'd say Billy Jean, but I resent the limited choice
	4:13pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...I was sure 'Wallpaper Women' was the Passionate & Objektive Jokerfan...it's not?...
	4:14pm anne: We need more kick-ass basslines--in pop and rap...I think most people really dig them even if they are not consciously thinking about it.
	4:14pm tim from champaign: I'm dense at the moment (or maybe all the time), who did "I Want You Back"? I can't place it.
	4:15pm Mike East: jackson5
	4:16pm tim from champaign: Oh yeah.
	4:16pm fred: PiL had good basslines in their early days, though probably not in a kick-ass sense
	4:17pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: I understand that Pop is Empty Calories - mall candy for teens - but does it really have to be this bad now ?? Everything is Bought Out - Music, Government... - tim: J5. Can't remember the bassline though.
	4:19pm Brach: is this real Japanese or fake Japanese
	4:19pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: J5 were kinda in that Motown tradition - as over-played as Downtown Soulville makes me realize that stuff is - you have to admit that 60s Motown stuff is like - perfect records, really.
	4:20pm Brach: NEITHER!
	4:20pm Mike East: thanks for your input, guys.
	4:20pm Cheri Pi: Finnish?
	4:22pm anne: RR3--Ya' know the J5 were all good what they did (I think...) and the pop of today is so bad--much of it is so empty--so clearly "product," so superficial
	4:23pm fred: I don't know how I managed to miss Body/Head again: they played right next to where I work, and by the time I heard about it, it was too late
	4:24pm anne: This on the toher hand is so good (Victor D Band)
	4:25pm fred: $15 to Brian's goal... anyone can make the dog wag now
	4:25pm tim from champaign: This Victor Dimisich Band has Pearls Before Swine written all over it. That's fine by me.
	4:28pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Having Taste & Artistic Sensibilities is a Talent - as much as being able to dance spectacularly or sing nine octaves w/ legato trills. These Young'ens always talk about 'great performers'. Sure (I love the Wh♂ & Hendrix & Iggy) - but so is the elephant crapping in the circus - & I don't play his music either.
	4:32pm PKNY: @Brian - the Hawkwind show at the Gramercy Theatre has been postponed until March: venue.thegramercytheatre.com...
	4:34pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - speaking of Jimi, his 'American Masters' debuts tonight on PBS - we'll see how satisfying it is (reviews say good if no new tale to tell since 1970)...
	4:35pm DCE: oooh thanks for the tip RRNov63
	4:36pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...but reaching w/ a pen & an IV to turn off Idol on TV is so much more succinct an image...
	4:38pm Mike East: I just went to the billboard website because I realized that I'm not really even sure what "pop" is these days, and all the clutter on their site crashed my computer. I shan't be doing that again.
	4:39pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: WOOF !
	4:42pm Cheri Pi: MOO!
	4:43pm fred: To anyone in Chicago or nearby: Joe McPhee is playing at Constellation this Sunday: www.umbrellamusic.org...
	4:43pm anne: I think it is like it's always been here--the masses buy the sh*t about what is supposedly good--"eg, "Gaga, "Dancing with the Stars." and a minority is more discriminating.
	4:45pm fred: @anne: and the old folk bitch about how there is no real music anymore
	4:45pm anne: Wow, I think I'm having a flashback!!!!!
	4:46pm Cecile: I liked Gaga for a while, but she stopped being sly and edgy and just kind of got bloated and self-involved.
	4:46pm anne: Fred, yeah, I guess you are right. And this is one old folk who will try not to do that :)
	4:47pm Brian Turner: Wow, so that was surreal. I was playing all this Australian stuff and Irwin walks into the studio showing Gotye around. I got my picture with him, he was really nice. What a crazy place this place is.
	4:48pm Cecile: And i'm a big Adele fan. I think she has a certain something.
	4:49pm anne: Watch out brian, I smell a conspiracy...
	4:50pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - but in the 20th Century you had emerging racial minorities asserting a Music forged in Slavery - & then a massive Youth demographic first emerging - & PostWar - the conceit that Pop & Art could meet somehow ...like Dylan's friend Bobbie Neuwrith (sp??) saying in 'No Direction Home' documentary they would ask 'Should we see Ornette tonight?' - 'Well - has he got anything to say?!?' Who cares if anyone is saying anything now? - Good stuff is happening always - but who hears it now - ?! A few thousand Anti-Commercial Media FreeForm FMUheads ?!? - & the 'Business Model' of the entire Music Industry is totally up in the air, of course...
	4:50pm Cheri Pi: Pics or it didn't happen BT
	4:51pm Cecile: I like a lot of 90s house. Murk is pretty dang great. And Cajmere and Green Velvet came out then, too. And post-60s country leaves out Dolly's "Jolene" and Willie Nelson's "Red-Headed Stranger".
	4:52pm anne: --Cecile. I've liked some popular stuff over the years, fer sher. --RR3---I like your style.
	4:52pm Cecile: and I recall Randy Travis making some killer albums in the 80s - stripped down and not cheesy.
	4:52pm SLHalper: What she said.
	4:53pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - Thx Judy! New lease on life here...
	4:53pm anne: Cecile, I don't think anyone is saying all popular music is bad. I'm not.
	4:54pm Cecile: hey, Brian, forgot to ask if you partied with Primitive Calculators over in OZ. What was that like, if you did?
	4:55pm fred: @anne: I'm probably older than you, and my comment was mostly aimed at myself: I can go there if I'm not careful
	4:55pm Cecile: Most of it is pretty crappy. But there's good in every year. And I can go curmugeonly, too, at the drop of a hat.
	4:57pm Cecile: Usually when I hear Phillip Phillip's "Home". That makes me stabby.
	4:57pm Cecile: or whatever the hell his stupid name is.
	4:58pm Cecile: and Mumford & Sons. Jesus fucking Christ.
	4:59pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...& there's exponential Population Explosion: How big an audience constitutes 'Popular Music' ? - FMU alone blows the cover off 'no good music now' - but how Popular is it? ...I think the rate of release in new media makes a difference too - it's ever more sensationalistic & disposable, not even intended to last - & yes, I'm old enuff we used to get high & have the time & attention to listen to whole Albums & things - altho' are more glued to Devices than ever, I suppose...
	4:59pm Mike East: I'll confess to liking that Lorde, "Royals" song. DJ Keilli introduced me to it and I showed it to my wife...who now won't stop playing it...daughter likes it, too.
	4:59pm On the Yazoo: I'm one of the old folks looking for good music.
	5:01pm Cecile: Lee Ranaldo is good music. That was a good album he put out last year.
	5:01pm Brian Turner: No Cecile --- Denise was here in NYC while I was in Oz (she was on my show in late August).!
	5:02pm Cecile: I knew she was on then, was confused and thought that you all hung out Down Under.
	5:03pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: 'A Craftsman knows what he'll get ahead of time - an Artist doesn't necessarily.'
	5:04pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: I can admire Craftspeople - but let's call a Spade a Spade.
	5:07pm Cecile: Craftspeople can maybe see a more tangible result than an artist in their time, but you never know how posterity is going to treat them.
	5:09pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - as someone around here commented re Lou's passing - they'll be appreciating the Velvets & Lou in a hundred years - but [bands that remain nameless] - ??...
	5:15pm Cecile: I think you can't even count on that. You have to please yourself in this life via art or craft, and if later folks take it as inspiration, good for them.
	5:16pm Ike: Who was that causing trouble there and getting snipped? Was that Wiley?
	5:17pm Brian Turner: Ike always appears when shit goes wrong
	5:18pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - songwriters say you can't even think about how it will be received - & then there are ones who write for hire or to order - some very very successful ! Lou passed thru a song factory & learned form as part of what he became - but makes the point the Velvets had Dropped Out - they were already failures!...
	5:18pm Cecile: hahahaha, it's like Shazam or something.
	5:18pm Cecile: yay! PI!
	5:18pm anne: To me that Lorde is SO overrated. maybe she is good relative to those like her. But does she bring anything new to the table? Critics are hungry for decent stuff that might sell.
	5:19pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Cherie Bomb !
	5:20pm anne: @Cecile--I hear ya on the mumford and sons. Even the name makes me sick.
	5:21pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Lennon stopped an interviewer who said everyone loved them & they were classic - & pointed out that in the beginning they were reviled - bug name, weird hair, couldn't play, made kids crazy...
	5:23pm tim from champaign: No way, Choubi Choubi 2?!? Vol. 1 is probably my favorite Sublime Frequencies release. I hope it's on vinyl.
	5:24pm Ike: ROTFL, BT.
	5:25pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - yeah tim - rich & amazing track - amazing show...
	5:25pm Lopez: I never noticed that the cow, on it's final moo, really goes all out and becomes skinny. Congrats on gathering up all those ducats Brian!
	5:29pm Cecile: Ok, just ordered that. BT, you have to DL the Radio Soulwax app. They have an amazing house show that features Bang The Box and other goodies. The record labels come to life and dance.
	5:31pm Brian Turner: nice thanks Cecile.
	5:37pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Honeybadger don't give a shit !!
	5:43pm zeer: @BT&Cecile: The Radio Soulwax stuff you also find on vimeo (for me specially "Into the vortex" is the best: vimeo.com... one hour of some kind of vinyl-cover-replication live performance - but i guess you all know it allready ;) )
	5:47pm Fredericks: I'm going to see Dr. Chad this weekend!
	5:47pm Cecile: Yeah, into the Vortex is part of the app. I just wish they would make more! Did you catch their Brazilian show? That was pretty epic, Zeer.
	5:48pm Lopez: Everything about this track down to the album title is amazing. Key change! -Is that the rake he's playing over that drone?
	5:49pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...I like the plain theatre Merle would sing this & Willie would walk out...
	5:51pm Cecile: I had to run away and listen to Bang the Box on YouTube. Sorry.
	5:51pm zeer: :D
	5:51pm adam_nspy: Brian Turner still respects the college dean
	5:52pm Cecile: hahahahaha, I am so weak.
	5:53pm Brian Turner: Dean Wormer
	5:54pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: 'Fat drunk & stupid is no way to go through life son.'
	5:54pm Cecile: Dean Martin
	5:55pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...it worked for Dean Martin...
	5:57pm Mike East: great show, BT!
	5:58pm Robert: My compliments on the deft bleeping.
	5:58pm On the Yazoo: But, Dean could sing.
	5:58pm Mike East: ...flew by
	5:58pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...true...
	5:58pm Rev. Turnip Druid: Verrastro!
	6:00pm Anne: RR#--Dean was very handsome and not fat and he was charming.
	7:47pm farmacia: we are "farmacia" from argentina, we colab in piano on track: Val Denham Wallpaper Women cheers+

Brian Turner: Playlist from November 5, 2013

Order and disorder in a freeform haze of terribly-played guitars, shorted-out electronics, found audio detritus, strange sounds from strange lands all around. Psych-punk-junk, collage, even pop. Lots of in-studio live performances to boot.

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November 5, 2013

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	New	Approx. start time
Circuit des Yeux	Nova "Nova" by "Circuit des Yeux"	Overdue	Ba Da Bing!	*	0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Putas Bebadas	Dusty "Dusty" by "Putas Bebadas"	Jovem Excelso Happy	Cafetra	*	0:03:45 (Pop-up)
Abdul Rahman Al-Gheid	Beyt Kar Akhal	Hassiniya Music From the Western Sahara & Mauritania	Sublime Frequencies	*	0:06:27 (Pop-up)
Mind Over Mirrors	Bark & Barge "Bark & Barge" by "Mind Over Mirrors"	When the Rest Are Up at Four	Immune		0:11:17 (Pop-up)
Mammane Sani et Son Orgue	Lidda "Lidda" by "Mammane Sani et Son Orgue"	La Musique Electronique du Niger	Sahel Sounds/Mississippi	*	0:16:25 (Pop-up)
Teisco / Rimauri	I Foletti "I Foletti" by "Teisco / Rimauri"	D.O.C.	Dual Planet	*	0:21:06 (Pop-up)
Stinkbugs	Supernatural "Supernatural" by "Stinkbugs"	7"	Swashbuckling Hobo	*	0:27:02 (Pop-up)
The Cult	Peace Dog "Peace Dog" by "The Cult"	Electric	Beggars Banquet		0:30:02 (Pop-up)
Nyogthaeblisz	Bioterroristic Holocaust 666	Apocryphal Progenitors of Mankind's Tribulation			0:34:04 (Pop-up)
Merzbow Microkosmos	Excerpt "Excerpt" by "Merzbow Microkosmos"	Volume 1	Blossoming Noise	*	0:37:09 (Pop-up)
Autechre	Tac Lacora "Tac Lacora" by "Autechre"	L-Event	Warp	*	0:45:38 (Pop-up)
Bird of Omen	i "i" by "Bird of Omen"	What Was Once There Is Gone Now	Hand Hewn Timbre	*	0:47:05 (Pop-up)
David Kilgour / Hamish Kilgour / William Tyler	Livin in Space	Live here on the show 10/14/04			1:08:28 (Pop-up)
Val Denham	Wallpaper Women "Wallpaper Women" by "Val Denham"	Dysphoria	Vanity Case	*	1:12:17 (Pop-up)
Lakes	Wingless & Earthbound "Wingless & Earthbound" by "Lakes"	Blood of the Grove	No Patience	*	1:14:53 (Pop-up)
Karelia Group	Lulli Juttanasa - Gukkin Piera	Suomi Pop			1:18:35 (Pop-up)
Victor Dimisich Band	Thirteenth Floor	s/t	Siltbreeze	*	1:21:16 (Pop-up)
Primitive Motion	Mortal Souls "Mortal Souls" by "Primitive Motion"	Worlds Floating By	Bedroom Suck	*	1:35:07 (Pop-up)
Fottutissima Pellicceria Elsa	Moda Assassina	S/T	S-S	*	1:45:59 (Pop-up)
Sex Tide	Morning Meeting "Morning Meeting" by "Sex Tide"	Flash Fuck	A Wicked Company	*	1:46:47 (Pop-up)
Dr. Judy Satori	Metatron Energy Activation	Various: Fug Gum Vol. 2	No Label	*	1:49:06 (Pop-up)
Gilli Smyth	I Am a Fool "I Am a Fool" by "Gilli Smyth"	Mother	Charly		1:52:46 (Pop-up)
No Right Turn	Lawlands Away "Lawlands Away" by "No Right Turn"	No Right Turn	EM	*	1:55:03 (Pop-up)
Lee Ranaldo and the Dust	The Rising Tide	Last Night On Earth	Matador	*	2:01:09 (Pop-up)
Quttinirpaaq	Stork "Stork" by "Quttinirpaaq"	Let's Hang Out	Rural Isolation Project	*	2:10:17 (Pop-up)
Adibe Azezine	Ya Makhthat Al Welif (Oh, Those Who Take My Love)	Various: Choubi Choubi! Vol. 2	Sublime Frequencies	*	2:19:58 (Pop-up)
Modern Mechanical Music	Pleasure Dome	Various: Bang the Box! Lost Story of AKA Dance Music Chicago 1987-88	Still Music	*	2:24:11 (Pop-up)
Ron Morelli	Modern Paranoia "Modern Paranoia" by "Ron Morelli"	Spit	Hospital Porductions	*	2:28:55 (Pop-up)
Laraaji	Lotus Collage "Lotus Collage" by "Laraaji"	Celestial Music 1978-2011	All Saints	*	2:34:49 (Pop-up)
Bryan & the Haggards	Okie From Muskogee	Merles Just Want To Have Fun	Northern-Spy	*	2:45:40 (Pop-up)
Country Teasers	Please Ban Music / Gegen Alles	Live here on the show 6/15/06			2:50:45 (Pop-up)
Nathan Bowles / Scott Verrastro	Chakapa Vomit	Polar Satellites	Mie	*	2:58:59 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	3:04pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ~~~~☯~~~~ >>>>✌<<<< !!!!!!!!◉!!!!!!!!
	3:05pm Cheri Pi: This sounds about right.
	3:05pm Rev. Turnip Druid: What Bailey said.
	3:06pm DCE: well howwwwdy
	3:07pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...when invoking Metatron in the Sahara - remember to drink copious amounts of water...
	3:08pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...so this is where Beefheart stole it from...
	3:09pm βrian: Turquoise!
	3:12pm tim from champaign: The Captain had to have been hip to Saharan music. The vocals on this particular cut and the guitar playing on many other Saharan songs has the Magic Band playing.
	3:15pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...bust w/ the Hedge Funds 1% !!
	3:15pm joe: 'ello folks
	3:16pm common: nice delay!
	3:20pm Cheri Pi: 'ello Joe
	3:23pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ☆ complete 1st set.
	3:27pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: FMU is gonna have a public performance space!
	3:28pm Hambone: hey, which Terry Riley record did you mention? you compared it to the track from the sahel sounds label.
	3:28pm DCE: work grief...entered 149 names on an authorization requesty thingy and it freezes up on the very last one...
	3:29pm DCE: ...on the other hand, I have cookies.
	3:29pm Cheri Pi: This guy sounds like Fred AND Toody
	3:30pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - ah DCE - computers - can't live w/ 'em...& - can't live w/ 'em...& their cookies...
	3:33pm tim from champaign: Is this "Butt Town"?
	3:35pm Cheri Pi: LOL tfC
	3:35pm Cheri Pi: Nice save BT.
	3:35pm Chris from DC: This gets a clicky pentagram.
	3:37pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ✠✬✠
	3:41pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡ ◉L◉]] _M_
	3:42pm fred: This is nice (Merzbow Microkosmos) I'm going to have to spend more than a week without seeing a live show, which is cruel and unusual for this time of year
	3:43pm northguineahills: wow, this is awesome! (merzboz microkosmos)
	3:46pm zeer: Autechre too
	3:49pm braveness23: Listening to Autechre actually sent me to the hospital once. No joke.
	3:49pm DCE: brain-glitch?
	3:51pm zeer: mh, what do you think: is Nyogthaeblisz some kind of nsbm?
	3:52pm DCE: this bird IS rather ominous
	3:52pm Cheri Pi: In the auld days our brains couldn't process drum and bass without a helpful seizure or 2 to soften the blow.
	3:52pm braveness23: No I was extremely sick with Crohn's disease and the nausea was overwhelming. I was at a friends house (I should have been in bed...) and he put on Autechre. The shrill and glitchy intensity was more than I could handle.
	3:52pm fred: @b23: care to elaborate? I'm willing to trade my own musical hospital story
	3:54pm braveness23: My ex-wife and I turned Autechre into an adjective and that tradition carries on to this day in my house. Playing Autechre is simply forbidden in our home.
	3:57pm fred: OK, here's mine, much lighter: I once woke after surgery with the TV on and blaring. Cartoons first, then the French version of American Idol. Nothing horrible at first, but then they started singing. Seeing me standing on the bed trying to reach the off button with a pen while restrained by the IV drip, a nurse said I was awake enough to be released. Bonus track: once I got home I watched the Jandek DVD.
	3:58pm common: good one, fred!
	3:59pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - the image would make a great cartoon fred !
	4:00pm braveness23: LOL Love it! So in your case the music caused you to be discharged. For me it caused me to be admitted.
	4:01pm northguineahills: the only thing forbidden in my pad by my gf is post-60s Country, Classic Rock, and 90s House. She doesn't complain about anything else. Heck, we were vibing to Metal Machine Music Sunnite.
	4:01pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...together in a cartoon.
	4:02pm northguineahills: ( I meant, post 1960 Country)
	4:02pm northguineahills: Sounds like the beginning of a better day, Fred!
	4:03pm fred: I did think about a clockwork orange there, and had to laugh when I realized most people would have opposite choices re Jandek vs. "talent" shows
	4:03pm braveness23: I solve the musical divide by sneaking things on to her MP3 player so she hears them on her own and thinks that she discovered them. But we agree to agree on Autechre
	4:06pm Mike East: anybody feel like helping to settle an office debate: which has the better bassline: Billie Jean or I Want You Back?
	4:06pm Rev. Turnip Druid: Just catching up here: B23 @ 3:54, that is HIGH-LARIOUS.
	4:09pm anne: Billie Jean--fer sher.
	4:10pm Rev. Turnip Druid: Mike East: the answer is, naturally, De Futura by Magma. Was it one of the two choices? No, but we can call that an editorial oversight.
	4:10pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - basslines: how come cars w/ titanic Subwoofers never play Bach organ or John Entwistle ? Yerknow - not one ever...
	4:11pm braveness23: Yeah, Billy Jean
	4:12pm braveness23: In the summertime I drive around blasting Einstürzende Neubauten. I turn it up when I am stopped at lights near brothers blasting their thumping subwoofers
	4:12pm fred: I'd say Billy Jean, but I resent the limited choice
	4:13pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...I was sure 'Wallpaper Women' was the Passionate & Objektive Jokerfan...it's not?...
	4:14pm anne: We need more kick-ass basslines--in pop and rap...I think most people really dig them even if they are not consciously thinking about it.
	4:14pm tim from champaign: I'm dense at the moment (or maybe all the time), who did "I Want You Back"? I can't place it.
	4:15pm Mike East: jackson5
	4:16pm tim from champaign: Oh yeah.
	4:16pm fred: PiL had good basslines in their early days, though probably not in a kick-ass sense
	4:17pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: I understand that Pop is Empty Calories - mall candy for teens - but does it really have to be this bad now ?? Everything is Bought Out - Music, Government... - tim: J5. Can't remember the bassline though.
	4:19pm Brach: is this real Japanese or fake Japanese
	4:19pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: J5 were kinda in that Motown tradition - as over-played as Downtown Soulville makes me realize that stuff is - you have to admit that 60s Motown stuff is like - perfect records, really.
	4:20pm Brach: NEITHER!
	4:20pm Mike East: thanks for your input, guys.
	4:20pm Cheri Pi: Finnish?
	4:22pm anne: RR3--Ya' know the J5 were all good what they did (I think...) and the pop of today is so bad--much of it is so empty--so clearly "product," so superficial
	4:23pm fred: I don't know how I managed to miss Body/Head again: they played right next to where I work, and by the time I heard about it, it was too late
	4:24pm anne: This on the toher hand is so good (Victor D Band)
	4:25pm fred: $15 to Brian's goal... anyone can make the dog wag now
	4:25pm tim from champaign: This Victor Dimisich Band has Pearls Before Swine written all over it. That's fine by me.
	4:28pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Having Taste & Artistic Sensibilities is a Talent - as much as being able to dance spectacularly or sing nine octaves w/ legato trills. These Young'ens always talk about 'great performers'. Sure (I love the Wh♂ & Hendrix & Iggy) - but so is the elephant crapping in the circus - & I don't play his music either.
	4:32pm PKNY: @Brian - the Hawkwind show at the Gramercy Theatre has been postponed until March: venue.thegramercytheatre.com...
	4:34pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - speaking of Jimi, his 'American Masters' debuts tonight on PBS - we'll see how satisfying it is (reviews say good if no new tale to tell since 1970)...
	4:35pm DCE: oooh thanks for the tip RRNov63
	4:36pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...but reaching w/ a pen & an IV to turn off Idol on TV is so much more succinct an image...
	4:38pm Mike East: I just went to the billboard website because I realized that I'm not really even sure what "pop" is these days, and all the clutter on their site crashed my computer. I shan't be doing that again.
	4:39pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: WOOF !
	4:42pm Cheri Pi: MOO!
	4:43pm fred: To anyone in Chicago or nearby: Joe McPhee is playing at Constellation this Sunday: www.umbrellamusic.org...
	4:43pm anne: I think it is like it's always been here--the masses buy the sh*t about what is supposedly good--"eg, "Gaga, "Dancing with the Stars." and a minority is more discriminating.
	4:45pm fred: @anne: and the old folk bitch about how there is no real music anymore
	4:45pm anne: Wow, I think I'm having a flashback!!!!!
	4:46pm Cecile: I liked Gaga for a while, but she stopped being sly and edgy and just kind of got bloated and self-involved.
	4:46pm anne: Fred, yeah, I guess you are right. And this is one old folk who will try not to do that :)
	4:47pm Brian Turner: Wow, so that was surreal. I was playing all this Australian stuff and Irwin walks into the studio showing Gotye around. I got my picture with him, he was really nice. What a crazy place this place is.
	4:48pm Cecile: And i'm a big Adele fan. I think she has a certain something.
	4:49pm anne: Watch out brian, I smell a conspiracy...
	4:50pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - but in the 20th Century you had emerging racial minorities asserting a Music forged in Slavery - & then a massive Youth demographic first emerging - & PostWar - the conceit that Pop & Art could meet somehow ...like Dylan's friend Bobbie Neuwrith (sp??) saying in 'No Direction Home' documentary they would ask 'Should we see Ornette tonight?' - 'Well - has he got anything to say?!?' Who cares if anyone is saying anything now? - Good stuff is happening always - but who hears it now - ?! A few thousand Anti-Commercial Media FreeForm FMUheads ?!? - & the 'Business Model' of the entire Music Industry is totally up in the air, of course...
	4:50pm Cheri Pi: Pics or it didn't happen BT
	4:51pm Cecile: I like a lot of 90s house. Murk is pretty dang great. And Cajmere and Green Velvet came out then, too. And post-60s country leaves out Dolly's "Jolene" and Willie Nelson's "Red-Headed Stranger".
	4:52pm anne: --Cecile. I've liked some popular stuff over the years, fer sher. --RR3---I like your style.
	4:52pm Cecile: and I recall Randy Travis making some killer albums in the 80s - stripped down and not cheesy.
	4:52pm SLHalper: What she said.
	4:53pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - Thx Judy! New lease on life here...
	4:53pm anne: Cecile, I don't think anyone is saying all popular music is bad. I'm not.
	4:54pm Cecile: hey, Brian, forgot to ask if you partied with Primitive Calculators over in OZ. What was that like, if you did?
	4:55pm fred: @anne: I'm probably older than you, and my comment was mostly aimed at myself: I can go there if I'm not careful
	4:55pm Cecile: Most of it is pretty crappy. But there's good in every year. And I can go curmugeonly, too, at the drop of a hat.
	4:57pm Cecile: Usually when I hear Phillip Phillip's "Home". That makes me stabby.
	4:57pm Cecile: or whatever the hell his stupid name is.
	4:58pm Cecile: and Mumford & Sons. Jesus fucking Christ.
	4:59pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...& there's exponential Population Explosion: How big an audience constitutes 'Popular Music' ? - FMU alone blows the cover off 'no good music now' - but how Popular is it? ...I think the rate of release in new media makes a difference too - it's ever more sensationalistic & disposable, not even intended to last - & yes, I'm old enuff we used to get high & have the time & attention to listen to whole Albums & things - altho' are more glued to Devices than ever, I suppose...
	4:59pm Mike East: I'll confess to liking that Lorde, "Royals" song. DJ Keilli introduced me to it and I showed it to my wife...who now won't stop playing it...daughter likes it, too.
	4:59pm On the Yazoo: I'm one of the old folks looking for good music.
	5:01pm Cecile: Lee Ranaldo is good music. That was a good album he put out last year.
	5:01pm Brian Turner: No Cecile --- Denise was here in NYC while I was in Oz (she was on my show in late August).!
	5:02pm Cecile: I knew she was on then, was confused and thought that you all hung out Down Under.
	5:03pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: 'A Craftsman knows what he'll get ahead of time - an Artist doesn't necessarily.'
	5:04pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: I can admire Craftspeople - but let's call a Spade a Spade.
	5:07pm Cecile: Craftspeople can maybe see a more tangible result than an artist in their time, but you never know how posterity is going to treat them.
	5:09pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - as someone around here commented re Lou's passing - they'll be appreciating the Velvets & Lou in a hundred years - but [bands that remain nameless] - ??...
	5:15pm Cecile: I think you can't even count on that. You have to please yourself in this life via art or craft, and if later folks take it as inspiration, good for them.
	5:16pm Ike: Who was that causing trouble there and getting snipped? Was that Wiley?
	5:17pm Brian Turner: Ike always appears when shit goes wrong
	5:18pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - songwriters say you can't even think about how it will be received - & then there are ones who write for hire or to order - some very very successful ! Lou passed thru a song factory & learned form as part of what he became - but makes the point the Velvets had Dropped Out - they were already failures!...
	5:18pm Cecile: hahahaha, it's like Shazam or something.
	5:18pm Cecile: yay! PI!
	5:18pm anne: To me that Lorde is SO overrated. maybe she is good relative to those like her. But does she bring anything new to the table? Critics are hungry for decent stuff that might sell.
	5:19pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Cherie Bomb !
	5:20pm anne: @Cecile--I hear ya on the mumford and sons. Even the name makes me sick.
	5:21pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Lennon stopped an interviewer who said everyone loved them & they were classic - & pointed out that in the beginning they were reviled - bug name, weird hair, couldn't play, made kids crazy...
	5:23pm tim from champaign: No way, Choubi Choubi 2?!? Vol. 1 is probably my favorite Sublime Frequencies release. I hope it's on vinyl.
	5:24pm Ike: ROTFL, BT.
	5:25pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: - yeah tim - rich & amazing track - amazing show...
	5:25pm Lopez: I never noticed that the cow, on it's final moo, really goes all out and becomes skinny. Congrats on gathering up all those ducats Brian!
	5:29pm Cecile: Ok, just ordered that. BT, you have to DL the Radio Soulwax app. They have an amazing house show that features Bang The Box and other goodies. The record labels come to life and dance.
	5:31pm Brian Turner: nice thanks Cecile.
	5:37pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Honeybadger don't give a shit !!
	5:43pm zeer: @BT&Cecile: The Radio Soulwax stuff you also find on vimeo (for me specially "Into the vortex" is the best: vimeo.com... one hour of some kind of vinyl-cover-replication live performance - but i guess you all know it allready ;) )
	5:47pm Fredericks: I'm going to see Dr. Chad this weekend!
	5:47pm Cecile: Yeah, into the Vortex is part of the app. I just wish they would make more! Did you catch their Brazilian show? That was pretty epic, Zeer.
	5:48pm Lopez: Everything about this track down to the album title is amazing. Key change! -Is that the rake he's playing over that drone?
	5:49pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...I like the plain theatre Merle would sing this & Willie would walk out...
	5:51pm Cecile: I had to run away and listen to Bang the Box on YouTube. Sorry.
	5:51pm zeer: :D
	5:51pm adam_nspy: Brian Turner still respects the college dean
	5:52pm Cecile: hahahahaha, I am so weak.
	5:53pm Brian Turner: Dean Wormer
	5:54pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: 'Fat drunk & stupid is no way to go through life son.'
	5:54pm Cecile: Dean Martin
	5:55pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...it worked for Dean Martin...
	5:57pm Mike East: great show, BT!
	5:58pm Robert: My compliments on the deft bleeping.
	5:58pm On the Yazoo: But, Dean could sing.
	5:58pm Mike East: ...flew by
	5:58pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...true...
	5:58pm Rev. Turnip Druid: Verrastro!
	6:00pm Anne: RR#--Dean was very handsome and not fat and he was charming.
	7:47pm farmacia: we are "farmacia" from argentina, we colab in piano on track: Val Denham Wallpaper Women cheers+

Brian Turner: Playlist from November 5, 2013

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