WFMU: Wm. Berger presents My Castle of Quiet: Playlist from September 10, 2014

Listener comments!
	12:11am kimgland: morning. great start
	12:15am hola-soymilk: You going to play the new u2? I want to hear the new u2
	12:17am Wm.: Fucking iTunes; I thought I had paid for that shit! or been hacked... The Nerve! Like "who wouldn't want free U2?" Me!
	12:24am hola-soymilk: I wish you did pay for it or got hacked. I'm not laughing at you tho
	12:29am íkє: Hey folks.
	12:39am tracy: convolute
	12:40am ian: that was rad
	12:46am hola-soymilk: Moonknight rulez #1
	1:00am Rory: Great Ellorsith track.
	1:21am Schlockmaster: I never, in my long life, with its diverse interests, had am urge to listen to even one song by U2, I always thought about Bono and crew as totally non-deserving of interest.
	1:21am Schlockmaster: good morning from southern germany
	1:22am Rory: I completely agree Schlockmaster.
	1:22am Schlockmaster: I always thought U2 was making music for italian junkie-whores.
	1:22am hola-soymilk: Flemish is crazy awesome!
	1:24am Schlockmaster: But its easy making fun of them - I never did understand the appeal, the whole phenomen of U2, its alien to my mind, so uts better to shut up about it at all.
	1:27am Schlockmaster: Klaus Schulze is fun, though. Did you ever play Manuel Göttsching?
	1:29am Wm.: They used to be sort of fun if you were tired of listening to your Echo and The Bunnymen records, U2 were a 1/2way decent Irish diversion along similar lines, first three alubms, maybe. But he [Bono] has always overdone it, his histrionics are not my style, though somehow I love Freddie Mercury's histrionic vocals, or Halford. ...It's like they summed up so astutely on South Park, "no matter what he does, he still comes off like a piece of shit." That's pretty accurate!
	1:31am Wm.: I have played Manuel G., yes, for sure on this show. An album from '83 was reissued recently, and of course the collab w/Schulze was officially done on CD, though I have had a boot for awhile. And the Apricot Brandy album, I've played a lot in life, can't recall whther or not on this pgm.
	1:49am Schlockmaster: WOW I'm a fan of MOTH COCK now, brilliant!
	1:52am Wm.: Yeah I love those guys! ...Another case where the live set really "sold" me on them. That piece is great, and they're just a phenom in person.
	1:58am Rory: Amazing new record from Lussuria!
	1:59am Wm.: ...was just sitting here thinking the same thing!
	1:59am Schlockmaster: The night train murders giallo is one of my favourites, I always derested riding the train from munichvto rome, and that one has got all the bugs, thrills and stops of that ride!
	2:01am Wm.: Really? Are there women in their 30s giving out free shags in the W.C.?
	2:03am Manüla: I love the night train muc-roma. it was the best way getting back home from bavaria to my city. it s a pity that my husband don t share this love.
	2:03am Jill K.: Another great show Wm. Thanks for helping me fight the demons of my insomnia brain as always. -j
	2:07am anthropos: and mine, as well
	2:10am Wm.: Ah, some fresh voices! Thanks so much, you're welcome. ...I understand the burden of the insomniac well. I have been on sleep meds for years now, otherwise brain just won't shut down....
	2:39am Schlockmaster: NIGHT TRAIN MURDERS: sure there were young women available in toilets back then - it was the mid 70s - remember? By the time I got to ride that train in the early 80s, they were gone, I was left with the noise, the stops and the boredom of waiting 3 hours on the tracks near verona to continue the ride - no dining car on that one either, no drinks, but the wife always loved everything about it. I can see the analogy to LAST HOUSE ON THE LEFT, the cruelness and the hopelessness surrounding the deaths of the young girls, I think were these films differ is the on point atmosphere in those giallo films - LHOTL could play anywhere in the bushes around any city, its not printed on NYC - but NTM cleverly includes the feel of the time and place, its so recognizable, I think that speaks for a lot of those great italian 70s and 80s films we love. Even ARGENTO includes precise settings, that give you those films a documentary look and feel. American film-making is more about creating fantasy settings, there are lots of exceptions, sure, but take HALLOWEEN for example, where Carpenter builds the ultimate suburban setting, its an over the top world, that could be anywhere. Or PRECINCT 13 - over-amplifying LA into a guerrilla war zone, I could bring up more examples but I think I made my point - those italian films and even german ones from that time tended to let fantastic events happen in the "real" world, thats part of their appeal.
	2:43am Schlockmaster: LAST HOUSE ON THE LEFT again: I saw the remake a year ago, and I don´t remember much about it, I think they changed the ending a bit, but other than that it was so lala, O.K.ish like all those remakes, TCM, Hills have Eyes or Halloween for that matter, nobody needs them, they are getting done anyway...
	2:46am Wm.: ...you made me think of Fort Apache The Bronx, right there. That movie makes the Bronx seem like a post-apocalypse eternal night, and I think in a lesser way New Jack City did that with Harlem. ...I agree, I fancy the European films much more, they give me a sense of different European locales at that time in history, I dig the fuck out of that stuff!
	2:47am Wm.: Fuck remakes. That said, The Evil Dead one was NOT BAD AT ALL! Mostly, they all suck compared to the originals, I doubt any genre fan would argue....
	2:48am Schlockmaster: But perhaps our perspective - remember BORING OLD FARTS? bof, hehe - could be wrong and the new generation has a better grip on the media being produced for them - when I played those films to my kids a few years ago, they just laughed, they thought the FX were funny and could´t relate to the characters motivations... And those films are in color, so they CAN digest them, b/w is totally unreadable for them.
	2:48am Schlockmaster: I LOVED the Herzog remake of BAD LIEUTENANT, I think its superior to the original.
	2:51am Schlockmaster: FORT APACHE THE BRONX, best film by Newman ever and its got Pam Grier, FUNtastic!!!
	2:52am Wm.: My son hates my penchant for old movies, doesn't get it. But new horror films are so plastic, so predictable, he sees that too. ...And I really love both Bad Lieutenant films for completely different reasons, the Keitel one is great C'MON it's super-gritty, and a great NY film. The Herzog / Cage one is just freaking insane, that's why I love it.
	2:54am Schlockmaster: Yes, or think about the portrayal of NYC in King of NY - its so over-the top and you don´t really see LIFE, you see sets like the irish pub or the crack house or the hotel, and it makes you see THAT for NYC - other than in the Giallo settings, where most is shot live on the corner, at the piazza.
	2:56am Schlockmaster: Even the NYC of Scorcese is over-aestheticated mostly, I don´t mean that as a minus, I LOVE what american filmmakers do, but its a totally different approach to the european one.
	2:57am Schlockmaster: Gotta go walk the dog now, great talking to you, as always, take care, good show, etc....
	2:58am Wm.: I agree, King of New York looks really plasticene/neon/fake; but somehow Ferrara captured the grit of those times perfectly. I lived in Brooklyn at that time, and was in lower Manhattan often, so those drug cellars and LES streets are very real to me from that time. Somehow, the LIEUTENANT succeeds where KONY fails in that visceral regard.
	2:17pm SiHV: Getting to this week's show a tad late. Coasting to 5pm Friday.
	11:58pm SiHV: Wow, I LOVE the Laurie Spiegel track. I will need to listen to more of that.

Wm. Berger presents My Castle of Quiet: Playlist from September 10, 2014

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September 10, 2014: #235 Lose or Loose?

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Year	Format	Comments	Approx. start time
Fabio Frizzi & Giorgio Tucci	Zombie Theme	Zombie OST	Blackest Heart Media		CD		0:00:00 (Pop-up)
The Stooges	Loose (Take 2) "Loose (Take 2)" by "The Stooges"	Funhouse	Elektra / Rhino	2005	CD	2CD orig. 1970	0:05:03 (Pop-up)
Extended Versions	In This Town "In This Town" by "Extended Versions"	Extended Versions	Nur. Sch. Records	1991	LP		0:09:53 (Pop-up)
Tangerine Dream	Ossiach Lake "Ossiach Lake" by "Tangerine Dream"	Electric Monster Rock Show - Live German TV Performances 1969-1972	Seidr		CD	v/a	0:14:09 (Pop-up)
Bruce Lose	What's Your Name? "What's Your Name?" by "Bruce Lose"	Lose	Subterranean Records	1983	7"		0:18:28 (Pop-up)
The Stranglers	Goodbye Toulouse "Goodbye Toulouse" by "The Stranglers"	IV Rattus Norvegicus	EMI	2001	CD	1977	0:24:06 (Pop-up)
Spitzenqualität	B.M.K. "B.M.K." by "Spitzenqualität"	Spitzenqualität	self-released	2014	MP3	https://spitzenqualitat.bandcamp.com/releases	0:28:29 (Pop-up)
Moonknight	Dreaming in Blood "Dreaming in Blood" by "Moonknight"	Moonknight / Horrendus	Bajo Sepulcro Productions	2014	Cassette		0:41:51 (Pop-up)
Alkerdeel	Horsesaw "Horsesaw" by "Alkerdeel"	:Morinde:	Consouling Sounds / At War With False Noise		LP		0:44:49 (Pop-up)
Hexis	Abalam "Abalam" by "Hexis"	Abalam	Halo of Flies		LP	http://hexisband.bandcamp.com/album/abalam	0:47:05 (Pop-up)
Portal	Abysmill "Abysmill" by "Portal"	Outré	Profound Lore	2007	CD		0:49:33 (Pop-up)
Bad Biology	trailer "trailer" by "Bad Biology"						1:56:21 (Pop-up)
Ellorsith	Marasmus "Marasmus" by "Ellorsith"	1959	Caligari Records	2014	Cassette	coming in September	0:55:45 (Pop-up)
Dismember	Override of the Overture + Soon To Be Dead	Like an Ever Flowing Stream	Nuclear Blast		CD		1:02:29 (Pop-up)
Martyrdöd	Tämjda Människor "Tämjda Människor" by "Martyrdöd"	In Extremis	Havoc Records	2005	CD		1:07:43 (Pop-up)
Klais Schulze	Frank Herbert "Frank Herbert" by "Klais Schulze"	"X"	Magnum		CD	2CD	1:20:45 (Pop-up)
Moth Cock	D. Kiss "D. Kiss" by "Moth Cock"	Bremmy	Hausu Mountain	2014	Cassette		1:31:15 (Pop-up)
DA	LOVE MESSAGE "LOVE MESSAGE" by "DA"	OVERMIND	DA-REC	2014	MP3	http://www.schlockweltall.de/daovermind.html	1:48:50 (Pop-up)
Night Train Murders	trailer "trailer" by "Night Train Murders"						1:56:44 (Pop-up)
Lussuria	Boneblack "Boneblack" by "Lussuria"	Industriale Illuminato	Hospital Productions	2014	CD	avail. on LP & CD	1:55:46 (Pop-up)
Laurie Spiegel	East River Dawn "East River Dawn" by "Laurie Spiegel"	The Expanding Universe	Unseen Worlds		CD	2CD reissue	2:33:51 (Pop-up)
Steven Hufsteter	END CREDITS "END CREDITS" by "Steven Hufsteter"	Kiss of the Damned OST	Soraya	2013	CD		2:22:03 (Pop-up)
Justin Marc Lloyd	The Number Five Tasted Wrong, Part 2 + Panic Dreams	your	Love Earth Music	2013	CD		2:25:57 (Pop-up)
Dementia and Hope Trails	Man Is Obsolete. Erased, Extinct.	Dementia and Hope Trails / Soft Pieces	seven1878		CD-R	violentthreads.blogspot.com	2:33:09 (Pop-up)
Josh Millrod	Cutting Out "Cutting Out" by "Josh Millrod"	Seeking the Millenary Kingdom	Solid Melts	2014	Cassette		2:49:09 (Pop-up)
Polushon	Krugovi "Krugovi" by "Polushon"	Dépaysement	self-released	2014	MP3	http://polushon.bandcamp.com/releases	2:55:03 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	12:11am kimgland: morning. great start
	12:15am hola-soymilk: You going to play the new u2? I want to hear the new u2
	12:17am Wm.: Fucking iTunes; I thought I had paid for that shit! or been hacked... The Nerve! Like "who wouldn't want free U2?" Me!
	12:24am hola-soymilk: I wish you did pay for it or got hacked. I'm not laughing at you tho
	12:29am íkє: Hey folks.
	12:39am tracy: convolute
	12:40am ian: that was rad
	12:46am hola-soymilk: Moonknight rulez #1
	1:00am Rory: Great Ellorsith track.
	1:21am Schlockmaster: I never, in my long life, with its diverse interests, had am urge to listen to even one song by U2, I always thought about Bono and crew as totally non-deserving of interest.
	1:21am Schlockmaster: good morning from southern germany
	1:22am Rory: I completely agree Schlockmaster.
	1:22am Schlockmaster: I always thought U2 was making music for italian junkie-whores.
	1:22am hola-soymilk: Flemish is crazy awesome!
	1:24am Schlockmaster: But its easy making fun of them - I never did understand the appeal, the whole phenomen of U2, its alien to my mind, so uts better to shut up about it at all.
	1:27am Schlockmaster: Klaus Schulze is fun, though. Did you ever play Manuel Göttsching?
	1:29am Wm.: They used to be sort of fun if you were tired of listening to your Echo and The Bunnymen records, U2 were a 1/2way decent Irish diversion along similar lines, first three alubms, maybe. But he [Bono] has always overdone it, his histrionics are not my style, though somehow I love Freddie Mercury's histrionic vocals, or Halford. ...It's like they summed up so astutely on South Park, "no matter what he does, he still comes off like a piece of shit." That's pretty accurate!
	1:31am Wm.: I have played Manuel G., yes, for sure on this show. An album from '83 was reissued recently, and of course the collab w/Schulze was officially done on CD, though I have had a boot for awhile. And the Apricot Brandy album, I've played a lot in life, can't recall whther or not on this pgm.
	1:49am Schlockmaster: WOW I'm a fan of MOTH COCK now, brilliant!
	1:52am Wm.: Yeah I love those guys! ...Another case where the live set really "sold" me on them. That piece is great, and they're just a phenom in person.
	1:58am Rory: Amazing new record from Lussuria!
	1:59am Wm.: ...was just sitting here thinking the same thing!
	1:59am Schlockmaster: The night train murders giallo is one of my favourites, I always derested riding the train from munichvto rome, and that one has got all the bugs, thrills and stops of that ride!
	2:01am Wm.: Really? Are there women in their 30s giving out free shags in the W.C.?
	2:03am Manüla: I love the night train muc-roma. it was the best way getting back home from bavaria to my city. it s a pity that my husband don t share this love.
	2:03am Jill K.: Another great show Wm. Thanks for helping me fight the demons of my insomnia brain as always. -j
	2:07am anthropos: and mine, as well
	2:10am Wm.: Ah, some fresh voices! Thanks so much, you're welcome. ...I understand the burden of the insomniac well. I have been on sleep meds for years now, otherwise brain just won't shut down....
	2:39am Schlockmaster: NIGHT TRAIN MURDERS: sure there were young women available in toilets back then - it was the mid 70s - remember? By the time I got to ride that train in the early 80s, they were gone, I was left with the noise, the stops and the boredom of waiting 3 hours on the tracks near verona to continue the ride - no dining car on that one either, no drinks, but the wife always loved everything about it. I can see the analogy to LAST HOUSE ON THE LEFT, the cruelness and the hopelessness surrounding the deaths of the young girls, I think were these films differ is the on point atmosphere in those giallo films - LHOTL could play anywhere in the bushes around any city, its not printed on NYC - but NTM cleverly includes the feel of the time and place, its so recognizable, I think that speaks for a lot of those great italian 70s and 80s films we love. Even ARGENTO includes precise settings, that give you those films a documentary look and feel. American film-making is more about creating fantasy settings, there are lots of exceptions, sure, but take HALLOWEEN for example, where Carpenter builds the ultimate suburban setting, its an over the top world, that could be anywhere. Or PRECINCT 13 - over-amplifying LA into a guerrilla war zone, I could bring up more examples but I think I made my point - those italian films and even german ones from that time tended to let fantastic events happen in the "real" world, thats part of their appeal.
	2:43am Schlockmaster: LAST HOUSE ON THE LEFT again: I saw the remake a year ago, and I don´t remember much about it, I think they changed the ending a bit, but other than that it was so lala, O.K.ish like all those remakes, TCM, Hills have Eyes or Halloween for that matter, nobody needs them, they are getting done anyway...
	2:46am Wm.: ...you made me think of Fort Apache The Bronx, right there. That movie makes the Bronx seem like a post-apocalypse eternal night, and I think in a lesser way New Jack City did that with Harlem. ...I agree, I fancy the European films much more, they give me a sense of different European locales at that time in history, I dig the fuck out of that stuff!
	2:47am Wm.: Fuck remakes. That said, The Evil Dead one was NOT BAD AT ALL! Mostly, they all suck compared to the originals, I doubt any genre fan would argue....
	2:48am Schlockmaster: But perhaps our perspective - remember BORING OLD FARTS? bof, hehe - could be wrong and the new generation has a better grip on the media being produced for them - when I played those films to my kids a few years ago, they just laughed, they thought the FX were funny and could´t relate to the characters motivations... And those films are in color, so they CAN digest them, b/w is totally unreadable for them.
	2:48am Schlockmaster: I LOVED the Herzog remake of BAD LIEUTENANT, I think its superior to the original.
	2:51am Schlockmaster: FORT APACHE THE BRONX, best film by Newman ever and its got Pam Grier, FUNtastic!!!
	2:52am Wm.: My son hates my penchant for old movies, doesn't get it. But new horror films are so plastic, so predictable, he sees that too. ...And I really love both Bad Lieutenant films for completely different reasons, the Keitel one is great C'MON it's super-gritty, and a great NY film. The Herzog / Cage one is just freaking insane, that's why I love it.
	2:54am Schlockmaster: Yes, or think about the portrayal of NYC in King of NY - its so over-the top and you don´t really see LIFE, you see sets like the irish pub or the crack house or the hotel, and it makes you see THAT for NYC - other than in the Giallo settings, where most is shot live on the corner, at the piazza.
	2:56am Schlockmaster: Even the NYC of Scorcese is over-aestheticated mostly, I don´t mean that as a minus, I LOVE what american filmmakers do, but its a totally different approach to the european one.
	2:57am Schlockmaster: Gotta go walk the dog now, great talking to you, as always, take care, good show, etc....
	2:58am Wm.: I agree, King of New York looks really plasticene/neon/fake; but somehow Ferrara captured the grit of those times perfectly. I lived in Brooklyn at that time, and was in lower Manhattan often, so those drug cellars and LES streets are very real to me from that time. Somehow, the LIEUTENANT succeeds where KONY fails in that visceral regard.
	2:17pm SiHV: Getting to this week's show a tad late. Coasting to 5pm Friday.
	11:58pm SiHV: Wow, I LOVE the Laurie Spiegel track. I will need to listen to more of that.

Wm. Berger presents My Castle of Quiet: Playlist from September 10, 2014

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