WFMU: Miniature Minotaurs with Kurt Gottschalk: Playlist from May 8, 2015

Listener comments!
	3:03pm Mary Wing: Ha ha haaaaah, Bones does not like vinyl vandalism.
	3:03pm common: nice again, vp! hey kurt!
	3:03pm V Priceless: Sonny boy! Boy, it's sunny! Hey Kurt and gang!
	3:04pm Mark Helsten: Hello all. How good it is.
	3:05pm Mary Wing: "Dammit, Jim, that's 180g vinyl you're bending!!"
	3:07pm Mark Helsten: 2015 Threadgill! Nice!
	3:07pm V Priceless: ha - nice one, Mary Wing! The good doctor is a vinyl junkie, truth be told!
	3:07pm fred: Hello Kurt, nice post record fair GIF there
	3:07pm Kurt Gottschalk: Hi everyone! Happy Friday.
	3:17pm Cecile: who's the guitarist?
	3:18pm Kurt Gottschalk: liberty ellman
	3:18pm 37: nice graphic this week
	3:18pm Cecile: man or woman?
	3:18pm Mark Helsten: Excellent stuff. And brand new! May 2015! Thanks Kurt, this made my week!
	3:20pm fred: @cecile: why do you care?
	3:20pm Kurt Gottschalk: liberty is male, he's great. been playing with zooid for a long time. and the new record is fantastic too. doube cd.
	3:21pm Cecile: he has a great sound. Thought it was marc ducret or Raymond boni there for a minute.
	3:21pm 37: you've just got to love threadgill!
	3:22pm Cecile: @fred, because I'm a woman and there are not a whole hell of a lot of women in jazz.
	3:22pm Kurt Gottschalk: there's way, way more than there used to be, though.
	3:23pm Cecile: oh, you know it!
	3:24pm fred: @cecile: there are, there's just not getting their proper dues
	3:25pm Cecile: not so many women working in the free stuff I like, fred.
	3:26pm Cecile: anyway, I'm probably going to buy and ownload this record, woman or not.
	3:27pm Kurt Gottschalk: it's pretty commonplace to see mixed-gender out jazz bands in nyc anymore.
	3:27pm Cecile: that's really cool! I'm happy to hear that.
	3:28pm Mike East: I was told by the son of the minotaur that the beast could be slain by driving a spike into the base of his skull. He handed me a small wooden mallet, too light to get the job done in one blow, and a slightly dull phillips head screwdriver. I hid in the shadows awaiting my opportunity to strike, and searched desperately for a heavier hammer to no avail. In the end I was to frightened to act. And then I woke up.
	3:29pm Kurt Gottschalk: ok, meast, i googled that and got this back: the you to of in and it my me your that is we for all on this with be can but so no ... out time see one there as not was ve have never life he down do got get by she at if ... us into an only die man could right still oh mind again them think heart too am ..... wooden kickin pro smells jimmy dancin base village covering eats camera ...
	3:30pm Cecile: sounds like horse e-books on twitter.
	3:31pm fred: @Cecile: I apologize for the grammar mishap, this gets me so mad. A friend gets so much crap working in free jazz. She gets to a gig and the sound guy is like "Put the stuff over there, I'll deal with the serious sound with your boyfriend when he gets here". She's been at it for like 20 years, and it still happens
	3:31pm Mike East: nice. looks like a cutup. Mine was just a dream I had last night. That minotaur was like 10 dream feet tall...definitely not miniature. I was askeered.
	3:32pm Kurt Gottschalk: that's an amazing dream.
	3:33pm common: nice mike east!
	3:33pm Mike East: I booked Henry Threadgill in our studios coming up in a few weeks. @KG - yeah, it was intense.
	3:34pm Kurt Gottschalk: thread's recording again? will you whisper deets to me?
	3:34pm Cecile: fred that sucks. I'm trying to build my art career, and want to support as many artists as I can, especially women. You know, support the community. Mike, you are going to have to give us details! I saw him in the 80s and it was one of the best shows ever.
	3:36pm Lord Algae: The maintenance interns must STILL be cleaning up Monty Hall after that great movie last night. Fantastic job, Kurt!
	3:37pm Kurt Gottschalk: haha, it was odoriffic!
	3:38pm Cecile: what movie was it?
	3:39pm Kurt Gottschalk: Object Collection did a live dub of the Steven Segal movie "Under Siege" with odor-rama and a disco ball.
	3:39pm Mike East: dunno about recording, we are just rehearsals. I know he needs 2 pianos and has a cello, bass, a couple saxes, and a tuba player that needs a bass amp. Nice fellow on the phone. I'll let you know if I get to listen to anything....its a night rehearsal so I may be gone already, but johnk77 may be here (another commenter in these here parts).
	3:40pm Dean: Threadgill was a visiting prof at Berkeley a few years back, maybe a decade or more. He conducted a performance of students that was great in the same way college or community theater is great. Speaking of female jazz artists, Berkeley has Myra Melford. But then academia is so distinct from the local scenes.
	3:40pm Cecile: WOW. I actually watch that damn thing every time it comes on TV. Saw it in the theater, too. Only fun movie Segall ever made.
	3:41pm fred: @Cecile: That's great, but never ever assume women can't be assholes too. If women are people, they can be assholes. Support those who are worth your time
	3:42pm Cecile: Oh, fred, I totally know that from my upbringing, and first-hand experience! I'm going to support everyone I can whom I like, but if it's a super-talented female artist that I dig, it's a plus.
	3:42pm common: that is a great segall flick. wish i coulda been there!
	3:42pm Cecile: plus I have four sisters. I know from women being assholes.
	3:44pm Cecile: believe me, this solidarity is fairly new thing for me.
	3:45pm M: I listentoyourshowarchivesonrepeat Thebest Manythanks
	3:45pm Kurt Gottschalk: thanks, m!!
	3:46pm Cecile: I hope you're going in this vein all day, Kurt. Really digging it.
	3:48pm Kurt Gottschalk: oh cecile, how likely do you think that is?
	3:48pm Mark Helsten: Yes. Great curating thus far. Keep up the good work.
	3:48pm V Priceless: my sis plays guitar and sings with the the Peter Duchin Orchestra...also a Berklee grad. She pretty much covers every style of popular music, as you can imagine.
	3:49pm Cecile: How likely what is Kurt?
	3:49pm Cecile: that is so cool VP!
	3:49pm Kurt Gottschalk: that i'd stay in one vein.
	3:50pm fred: @Cecile: I know, but still, great artists are just ignored because they're female. At this point, what's to do? I don't know, I'll err on the side of supporting female artists who are not worth it, but that's demeaning those who are
	3:51pm Cecile: yeah, it's a bit of a pipe dream.
	3:52pm Kurt Gottschalk: haha, cecile, well i hope you'll stick around. the veins won't switch too quickly. otherwise you get all bloody.
	3:52pm Cecile: I'd say take it by a case by case basis, fred. hahahhaha
	3:55pm fred: @cecile: I will, I don't know any other way. Still, the added barriers to female artists don't sit well with me. I really care about that, but I don't know what to do about it
	3:57pm Cecile: Just support them. Go up to them and tell them how glad you are they came to town. Buy their artwork and CDs. See their movies. Pledge to their kickstarters.
	4:00pm Andrew Waterloo: I support my favourite female artists the same way I support my favourite male artists.
	4:01pm Cecile: Yup! That's the way to do it. I'm just seeking out more women in experimental and avant fields of late. Looking for role models.
	4:02pm Cecile: At some point you get tired trying to go it alone. I learned that. I try to pick up lessons from artists and musicians wherever I can. But having some female peers/role models is nice
	4:04pm Kurt Gottschalk: cecile, i did a story for a canadian magazine last year about younger female jazz musicians - particularly mary halvorson, kris davis and ingrid laubrock - who don't feel the gender disparity exists anymore except on the part of promoters who want to do "women in jazz" festivals.
	4:06pm Mister Dobalina: You have a calming voice, as if you worked on NPR radio!
	4:07pm Cecile: That's really interesting. Do you think it's because they are also working with younger musicians themselves, the audience has changed, or maybe the particular scene they are in is really open-minded?
	4:08pm fred: @Cecile: I'm like the feminist shrill at this point, so I don't want to overdo it. Being male also means I have to be extra careful about that
	4:08pm Billy: is it because D'Arcy, Jimmy, and James are no longer in the band?
	4:08pm Cecile: I remember reading somewhere that the gender gap in classical music closed a great deal once most orchestras started doing blind auditions.
	4:09pm JakeGould: Hello, Sheeple.
	4:09pm Andrew Waterloo: I know that Canadian jazz and avant garde festivals I attend tend to have a lot of female performers.
	4:09pm common: i've pretty much always played in bands with women throughout my musical journey.
	4:10pm chris: Bleet, bleeeeet, JakeG.
	4:12pm Jodi: I read that Hillary Clinton sang for a short time with Anita Kerr. This must be urban myth.
	4:13pm Andrew Waterloo: Mish Way (White Lung) had this to say on the topic (read the extended part) whitelung.tumblr.com...
	4:13pm Dean: Here's SF Chronicle on the gender gap in orchestras et al.: http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Gender-gap-Tech-could-take-a-cue-from-orchestras-5633277.php
	4:13pm JakeGould: GOOD SHEEPLE CHRIS. HEY MY KEYBOARD IS IN CAPS LOKC? SHOULD I JUST THROW IT OUT THE WINDWO. I’M AN AMERICAN IF THAT MEANS ANYTHING.
	4:14pm r i s k y: Kurt, we about it!
	4:15pm r i s k y: Let's get some estrogen pumping maaan!
	4:15pm Offal: Throw it away Jake. Don't recycle. New ones from China are cheep. Sam's Club has them. They have 99 cent wieners on Fridays.
	4:15pm Cecile: Good for Mish. I do think a lot of staying sane is not putting up with crap and having support from your friends.
	4:15pm fred: @cecile: Supporting them for their music has nothing to do with their being female. That's the point
	4:15pm chris: Jake, this is a known issue with Interwebs™ 2015. Please restart the internet and try your comment again.
	4:17pm Andrew Waterloo: Are there a lot of female conductors in classical?
	4:17pm JakeGould: Chris, I just threw it out the window and then bought a new keyboard. So I’ll stick a paperclip in it the next time.
	4:18pm Kurt Gottschalk: there are not a lot, no, but there is one, andrew, your countrywoman barbara hannigan is tearing up the road!
	4:19pm Cecile: I know, fred. And even with my newfound solidarity, I'm not going to buy a Tori Amos record any time soon.
	4:19pm Cecile: Personal taste is the big decider.
	4:19pm Dean: @Andrew: Not to my knowledge. (And if you read the SF Chron piece, ain't Zubin Mehta a piece of work?) But Berkeley--the city, not the university--has a highly acclaimed female conductor, Joana Carneiro.
	4:22pm fred: @Cecile: I didn't meant that (Supporting them for their music has nothing to do with their being female. That's the point) as questioning what you said, but as a statement of my own opinion. I suck at this
	4:22pm Cecile: I get it, fred.
	4:23pm Andrew Waterloo: @Dean, I was wondering because Guelph has a female conductor, and I figure knowing 2 symphonies isn't a good frame of reference.
	4:24pm Cecile: I can be a little bit contentious for no reason sometimes. It's all good.
	4:26pm TDK60: This is interesting, the Iva Bittova. I see it's a Chris Cutler piece.
	4:28pm Dean: I suspect (meaning I have no firm basis for knowing) the discrepancy in conducting and musical direction is similar to that in composing. Not a whole lot of female composers who make their livings at it. I believe Carneiro is trying to feature more compositions by women. Glancing at some upcoming shows, I see pieces by Saariaho and Gubaidulina, which only superficially makes my point.
	4:28pm Kurt Gottschalk: yeah, she's fantastic. funny that i had a whole set of female performers lined up for the second hour prior to all the conversation on the playlist today.
	4:28pm fred: @Cecile: Be yourself and say what you think. I'll learn from it, the mess is part of the learning. It improves it. Pointless contention is part of it
	4:29pm Cecile: you are completely right! hahahaha
	4:30pm still b/p: I like that -- there's PC, and then there's PC.
	4:30pm Cecile: my husband and I have arguments where we agree on 99% of a subject, but split hairs on the fine details. We call it "loudly agreeing".
	4:30pm Cecile: hahahahah, Kurt!
	4:32pm Kurt Gottschalk: <3 JONI
	4:33pm V Priceless: agreed
	4:33pm ranjit: <3 miniature minotaurs!
	4:34pm Kurt Gottschalk: awwww, ranjit
	4:35pm still b/p: Joni's awake, not awake..her friend is calling the shots, and why...the current story scramble seems unfortunate.
	4:37pm Cecile: What she's suffering from is believed to be a psychiatric rather than physical condition, but it sounds like it's miserable nonetheless. Morgellon's syndrome
	4:37pm Clay: Morgellons. So bizarre. I've come to appreciate the Jaco/Pat Metheny Joni stuff more.
	4:38pm Kurt Gottschalk: i agree, b/p. it's also a shame that we're used to having such immediate information that we think it's our business. what we hear when should be up to those closest to her, not tmz (who got it wrong anyway).
	4:38pm TDK60: 'Coyote' is one of my fave Joni tunes.
	4:38pm Cecile: Exactly, Kurt.
	4:39pm Kurt Gottschalk: and it sounds so hot with the band playing it.
	4:40pm TDK60: You seen this film? The Band is playing behind her. The song comes to its end but Joni is still in the song, dancing, like it's hard for her to get out it!
	4:40pm fred: Sorry Kurt, but you can't play her and that card at the same time.
	4:42pm Kurt Gottschalk: tdk, yes! fred, no?
	4:43pm ranjit: hey Kurt, is it ok to promote a friend's gig on your playlist?
	4:43pm ranjit: (it's thematically appropriate, I promise)
	4:44pm Kurt Gottschalk: go for it, ranjit
	4:44pm ranjit: Yay! Amy X Neuburg - who did this amazing cover of California - undercoverpresents.bandcamp.com...
	4:45pm ranjit: - is playing in Park Slope next thursday theoldstonehouse.org...
	4:45pm fred: You're the DJ, you're right
	4:45pm Kurt Gottschalk: amy's great! i never knew about that cover.
	4:48pm Kurt Gottschalk: fred, i don't have to be "right." her people have put out that she's hospitalized and asked her fans to keep her int their thoughts. i am a big fan of hers and i am keeping her in my thoughts by playing her on the radio. i think it's lamentable, however, that there is always such a rush to information, especially about the personal affairs of a very private person. two different issues. obviously she's not well, but we do not "deserve to know" until it is deemed that we know how she is.
	4:50pm Kurt Gottschalk: not trying to debate with you either, just trying to say how i see it.
	4:59pm V Priceless: Yeah! Put THAT in your giant sippy cup, Harvey Levin!
	4:59pm JakeGould: In other news, are there any people here who are on Twitter and want to help me point out a typo to a famous comedic actor on Twitter? He only has 2 tweets and is beloved. We should all work together to get him to fix this issue.
	5:02pm Kurt Gottschalk: thanks for backing me up, pops
	5:03pm V Priceless: any time, kiddo! ; )
	5:03pm fred: @Kurt: that's so besides what I said I don't know where to begin. My reference to your being the DJ had nothing to do with that, at all. It was irrational on my part, and I'll take full blame for it. I can only apologize, and try to understand why I lapsed this way. That's not a way out, but that is stalling. I might figure it out, until then I'll shut up
	5:04pm Dean: Johnny Nash 45 at 33 reminds me that Sly & Robbie are playing a tiny venue in Oakland next weekend!
	5:06pm JakeGould: @fred: You should respect boundaries. That is it. Someone wants to honor someone, that’s it.
	5:07pm Dean: Well, well, Wolfgang Mitterer is on that Herbert record.
	5:09pm common: hey...by the by...beeeeeeeersies!!!
	5:10pm Kurt Gottschalk: no worries, fred. sorry if i took your words the wrong way.
	5:11pm V Priceless: what's on tap, comm?
	5:12pm common: yuengling premium! per usual.
	5:14pm fred: @JakeGould: Could you tell me where I erred? I want to know. I think I fucked up, but I can only own up to it if I fully understand it
	5:14pm Cecile: @fred, it's cool.
	5:15pm Kurt Gottschalk: fred, i think jake meant people should respect boundaries. it wasn't aimed at you.
	5:16pm V Priceless: nice! Been on a Blue Moon First Peach Ale binge here...they're not making it anymore - grab it while ya can!
	5:17pm fred: @cecile: It was definitely aimed at me. Meaning that I failed there. I need to know how it happened, to make sure it doesn't happen again
	5:18pm Cecile: @fred, I would disregard that comment. It was piling on top of what Kurt said. Kurt is cool with you, leave it at that.
	5:20pm Kurt Gottschalk: we're all good. everybody cool in the minotaur lair.
	5:22pm Sem Chumbo: So right, KG, let's sing a chorus of "Why Can't We Be Friends", and let it go that that.:-D
	5:22pm Cecile: hug it out, bro!
	5:22pm Kurt Gottschalk: that song sucks and you're stupid for suggesting it.
	5:25pm Cecile: truce over in 3, 2, 1...
	5:26pm V Priceless: haha Kurt! yeah, fred - lots of times, the subtleties of intent get lost in translation amidst this virtual realm - you are cool, and I think I speak 'en masse' when I say we are cool with you being cool! I hope that last line didn't confuse you as much as it did me!
	5:27pm Marcel M: Hi Kurt and friends.
	5:27pm Kurt Gottschalk: i gotta bring up the spirits here in this place.
	5:28pm common: marcel!
	5:28pm Cecile: I gotta get this album
	5:28pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Buckladelic ! ...I'm like an FMU Newbie of late - just wanna tell everybody how great they are & how much I appreciate the program...
	5:29pm Kurt Gottschalk: cecile, it is so solid. three discs, dead solid.
	5:29pm Kurt Gottschalk: thanks, revs
	5:29pm Cecile: good ta hear. the world needs the funk
	5:30pm fred: No confusion that Funkadelic can't cure
	5:31pm Cecile: you are 1000% correct, sir!
	5:32pm Dean: Dang, I step out to buy a Mom's Day card and I miss the Kagel and Residents. Pianist Alexandre Tharaud has a nice disk of Kagel piano pieces.
	5:32pm common: feels like friday now!
	5:35pm V Priceless: This is pretty funny - heard it on Irwin's show a while back: www.youtube.com...
	5:41pm Cecile: adios, all!
	5:41pm V Priceless: where's my lampshade?
	5:43pm V Priceless: see ya, Cecile - safe travels!
	5:44pm Mary Wing: Th'PURPLEONE!
	5:49pm Marcel M: Bue Cecile!
	5:49pm Marcel M: Or bye
	5:50pm fred: Do we need to have him dead before we acknowledge his greatness?
	5:52pm Kurt Gottschalk: I DON'T!
	5:53pm V Priceless: this sounds like a brawl at the Black Lodge
	5:53pm Kurt Gottschalk: this is who did the live dub to 'under seige' last night
	5:55pm Marcel M: @V Priceless: I was just thinking something similar
	5:55pm V Priceless: Yes! Sorry I missed it!
	5:57pm V Priceless: Chose and Loose??
	5:58pm Mary Wing: Chose and lose?
	5:58pm V Priceless: haha..I am useless
	5:59pm still b/p: Hearing Bob sing this: great. Spending the whole evening or many evenings in a tavern with Bob: not sure.
	5:59pm V Priceless: Thanx KG!
	6:00pm Deam: OTOH, Goulet rhymes with poulet.

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May 8, 2015: How Good it Is
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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Year	Format	Comments	Approx. start time
Johnny Nash	How Good it Is "How Good it Is" by "Johnny Nash"		Epic	1972	45		0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Henry Threadgill Zooid	In for a penny, in for a pound (opening)	In for a Penny, In for a Pound	Pi Recordings	2015	CD		0:02:36 (Pop-up)
Henry Threadgill Zooid	Ceroepic (for drums and percussion)	In for a Penny, In for a Pound	Pi Recordings	2015	CD		0:07:04 (Pop-up)
Jack DeJohnette	Leave Don't Go Away	Made in Chicago	ECM Records	2015	CD	Composed by Henry Threadgill	0:26:42 (Pop-up)
David Murray & Jack DeJohnette	The Dice	In Our Style	DIW	1986	CD	Composed by Lawrence D. "Butch" Morris	0:36:56 (Pop-up)
Lawrence D. "Butch" Morris	Possible Universe... part five	Possible Universe: Conduction 192 - Sant'Anna Arresi - August 29th 2010	Nu Bop Records	2014	CD		0:45:07 (Pop-up)
David Murray Trio	The Hill "The Hill" by "David Murray Trio"	The Hill	Black Saint	1988	CD		0:53:34 (Pop-up)

The New Songs	The Hill "The Hill" by "The New Songs"	A nest at the junction of paths	Umlaut Records	2011	CD		1:12:31 (Pop-up)
Iva Bittová	Farewell "Farewell" by "Iva Bittová"	Entwine / Proplétám	Pavian Records	2014	CD	Composed by Chris Cutler	1:21:39 (Pop-up)
Joni Mitchell	California "California" by "Joni Mitchell"	Blue	Rhino	2007	CD	Originally released in 1971	1:30:31 (Pop-up)
Joni Mitchell & the Band	Coyote "Coyote" by "Joni Mitchell & the Band"	The Last Waltz	Rhino	2002	CD	Originally released in 1978	1:34:16 (Pop-up)
Peter Herbert	Blue Motel Room "Blue Motel Room" by "Peter Herbert"	Joni	Col Legno	2011	CD	Composed by Joni Mitchell	1:39:52 (Pop-up)
Fünf	The name's name "The name's name" by "Fünf"	Fünf	Ambiances Magnetiques	2014	CD		1:45:09 (Pop-up)
Fünf	Girl in the Vague "Girl in the Vague" by "Fünf"	Fünf	Ambiances Magnetiques	2014	CD		1:47:43 (Pop-up)
Hal Clark	Rouge Permanent "Rouge Permanent" by "Hal Clark"	Electro-Acoustic Works 1974-1975	Prisma Records	2013	CD	Recorded in 1975	1:52:24 (Pop-up)
L'art pour l'art	Transición for piano, percussion and tape	Chamber Works	CPO	1999	CD	Composed by Mauricio Kagel in 1958-59	2:08:14 (Pop-up)
The Residents	Two Clown Paintings	Arkansas	Cryptic Corporation	2009	CD		2:22:45 (Pop-up)
Funkadelic	The Naz "The Naz" by "Funkadelic"	first ya gotta SHAKE THE GATE	The C Kunspyruhzy	2014	CD	Written by Lord Buckley	2:24:37 (Pop-up)
Funkadelic	Comin' Round the Mountain	Hardcore Jollies	Charly	1993	CD	Originally released in 1976	2:30:29 (Pop-up)
M. Ashraf	Too Bhi Piala Chum "Too Bhi Piala Chum" by "M. Ashraf"	Dekha Jaye Ga	Finders Keepers	2009	CD	Title song from the 1960 film	2:35:57 (Pop-up)
Prince	Nothing Compares 2 U "Nothing Compares 2 U" by "Prince"	Peach CD single	Paisley Park / Warner Bros.	1993	CD		2:42:16 (Pop-up)
Object Collection	Fuck You, Man (radio edit)	No Song	Khalija	2014	Cassette		2:47:04 (Pop-up)
Robert Goulet	Those Were the Days	Both Sides Now	Columbia	1969	LP		2:53:28 (Pop-up)
Petula Clark	The Show is Over "The Show is Over" by "Petula Clark"	Beautiful Sounds: The Petula Clark Songbook	Castle	2000	CD		2:58:44 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	3:03pm Mary Wing: Ha ha haaaaah, Bones does not like vinyl vandalism.
	3:03pm common: nice again, vp! hey kurt!
	3:03pm V Priceless: Sonny boy! Boy, it's sunny! Hey Kurt and gang!
	3:04pm Mark Helsten: Hello all. How good it is.
	3:05pm Mary Wing: "Dammit, Jim, that's 180g vinyl you're bending!!"
	3:07pm Mark Helsten: 2015 Threadgill! Nice!
	3:07pm V Priceless: ha - nice one, Mary Wing! The good doctor is a vinyl junkie, truth be told!
	3:07pm fred: Hello Kurt, nice post record fair GIF there
	3:07pm Kurt Gottschalk: Hi everyone! Happy Friday.
	3:17pm Cecile: who's the guitarist?
	3:18pm Kurt Gottschalk: liberty ellman
	3:18pm 37: nice graphic this week
	3:18pm Cecile: man or woman?
	3:18pm Mark Helsten: Excellent stuff. And brand new! May 2015! Thanks Kurt, this made my week!
	3:20pm fred: @cecile: why do you care?
	3:20pm Kurt Gottschalk: liberty is male, he's great. been playing with zooid for a long time. and the new record is fantastic too. doube cd.
	3:21pm Cecile: he has a great sound. Thought it was marc ducret or Raymond boni there for a minute.
	3:21pm 37: you've just got to love threadgill!
	3:22pm Cecile: @fred, because I'm a woman and there are not a whole hell of a lot of women in jazz.
	3:22pm Kurt Gottschalk: there's way, way more than there used to be, though.
	3:23pm Cecile: oh, you know it!
	3:24pm fred: @cecile: there are, there's just not getting their proper dues
	3:25pm Cecile: not so many women working in the free stuff I like, fred.
	3:26pm Cecile: anyway, I'm probably going to buy and ownload this record, woman or not.
	3:27pm Kurt Gottschalk: it's pretty commonplace to see mixed-gender out jazz bands in nyc anymore.
	3:27pm Cecile: that's really cool! I'm happy to hear that.
	3:28pm Mike East: I was told by the son of the minotaur that the beast could be slain by driving a spike into the base of his skull. He handed me a small wooden mallet, too light to get the job done in one blow, and a slightly dull phillips head screwdriver. I hid in the shadows awaiting my opportunity to strike, and searched desperately for a heavier hammer to no avail. In the end I was to frightened to act. And then I woke up.
	3:29pm Kurt Gottschalk: ok, meast, i googled that and got this back: the you to of in and it my me your that is we for all on this with be can but so no ... out time see one there as not was ve have never life he down do got get by she at if ... us into an only die man could right still oh mind again them think heart too am ..... wooden kickin pro smells jimmy dancin base village covering eats camera ...
	3:30pm Cecile: sounds like horse e-books on twitter.
	3:31pm fred: @Cecile: I apologize for the grammar mishap, this gets me so mad. A friend gets so much crap working in free jazz. She gets to a gig and the sound guy is like "Put the stuff over there, I'll deal with the serious sound with your boyfriend when he gets here". She's been at it for like 20 years, and it still happens
	3:31pm Mike East: nice. looks like a cutup. Mine was just a dream I had last night. That minotaur was like 10 dream feet tall...definitely not miniature. I was askeered.
	3:32pm Kurt Gottschalk: that's an amazing dream.
	3:33pm common: nice mike east!
	3:33pm Mike East: I booked Henry Threadgill in our studios coming up in a few weeks. @KG - yeah, it was intense.
	3:34pm Kurt Gottschalk: thread's recording again? will you whisper deets to me?
	3:34pm Cecile: fred that sucks. I'm trying to build my art career, and want to support as many artists as I can, especially women. You know, support the community. Mike, you are going to have to give us details! I saw him in the 80s and it was one of the best shows ever.
	3:36pm Lord Algae: The maintenance interns must STILL be cleaning up Monty Hall after that great movie last night. Fantastic job, Kurt!
	3:37pm Kurt Gottschalk: haha, it was odoriffic!
	3:38pm Cecile: what movie was it?
	3:39pm Kurt Gottschalk: Object Collection did a live dub of the Steven Segal movie "Under Siege" with odor-rama and a disco ball.
	3:39pm Mike East: dunno about recording, we are just rehearsals. I know he needs 2 pianos and has a cello, bass, a couple saxes, and a tuba player that needs a bass amp. Nice fellow on the phone. I'll let you know if I get to listen to anything....its a night rehearsal so I may be gone already, but johnk77 may be here (another commenter in these here parts).
	3:40pm Dean: Threadgill was a visiting prof at Berkeley a few years back, maybe a decade or more. He conducted a performance of students that was great in the same way college or community theater is great. Speaking of female jazz artists, Berkeley has Myra Melford. But then academia is so distinct from the local scenes.
	3:40pm Cecile: WOW. I actually watch that damn thing every time it comes on TV. Saw it in the theater, too. Only fun movie Segall ever made.
	3:41pm fred: @Cecile: That's great, but never ever assume women can't be assholes too. If women are people, they can be assholes. Support those who are worth your time
	3:42pm Cecile: Oh, fred, I totally know that from my upbringing, and first-hand experience! I'm going to support everyone I can whom I like, but if it's a super-talented female artist that I dig, it's a plus.
	3:42pm common: that is a great segall flick. wish i coulda been there!
	3:42pm Cecile: plus I have four sisters. I know from women being assholes.
	3:44pm Cecile: believe me, this solidarity is fairly new thing for me.
	3:45pm M: I listentoyourshowarchivesonrepeat Thebest Manythanks
	3:45pm Kurt Gottschalk: thanks, m!!
	3:46pm Cecile: I hope you're going in this vein all day, Kurt. Really digging it.
	3:48pm Kurt Gottschalk: oh cecile, how likely do you think that is?
	3:48pm Mark Helsten: Yes. Great curating thus far. Keep up the good work.
	3:48pm V Priceless: my sis plays guitar and sings with the the Peter Duchin Orchestra...also a Berklee grad. She pretty much covers every style of popular music, as you can imagine.
	3:49pm Cecile: How likely what is Kurt?
	3:49pm Cecile: that is so cool VP!
	3:49pm Kurt Gottschalk: that i'd stay in one vein.
	3:50pm fred: @Cecile: I know, but still, great artists are just ignored because they're female. At this point, what's to do? I don't know, I'll err on the side of supporting female artists who are not worth it, but that's demeaning those who are
	3:51pm Cecile: yeah, it's a bit of a pipe dream.
	3:52pm Kurt Gottschalk: haha, cecile, well i hope you'll stick around. the veins won't switch too quickly. otherwise you get all bloody.
	3:52pm Cecile: I'd say take it by a case by case basis, fred. hahahhaha
	3:55pm fred: @cecile: I will, I don't know any other way. Still, the added barriers to female artists don't sit well with me. I really care about that, but I don't know what to do about it
	3:57pm Cecile: Just support them. Go up to them and tell them how glad you are they came to town. Buy their artwork and CDs. See their movies. Pledge to their kickstarters.
	4:00pm Andrew Waterloo: I support my favourite female artists the same way I support my favourite male artists.
	4:01pm Cecile: Yup! That's the way to do it. I'm just seeking out more women in experimental and avant fields of late. Looking for role models.
	4:02pm Cecile: At some point you get tired trying to go it alone. I learned that. I try to pick up lessons from artists and musicians wherever I can. But having some female peers/role models is nice
	4:04pm Kurt Gottschalk: cecile, i did a story for a canadian magazine last year about younger female jazz musicians - particularly mary halvorson, kris davis and ingrid laubrock - who don't feel the gender disparity exists anymore except on the part of promoters who want to do "women in jazz" festivals.
	4:06pm Mister Dobalina: You have a calming voice, as if you worked on NPR radio!
	4:07pm Cecile: That's really interesting. Do you think it's because they are also working with younger musicians themselves, the audience has changed, or maybe the particular scene they are in is really open-minded?
	4:08pm fred: @Cecile: I'm like the feminist shrill at this point, so I don't want to overdo it. Being male also means I have to be extra careful about that
	4:08pm Billy: is it because D'Arcy, Jimmy, and James are no longer in the band?
	4:08pm Cecile: I remember reading somewhere that the gender gap in classical music closed a great deal once most orchestras started doing blind auditions.
	4:09pm JakeGould: Hello, Sheeple.
	4:09pm Andrew Waterloo: I know that Canadian jazz and avant garde festivals I attend tend to have a lot of female performers.
	4:09pm common: i've pretty much always played in bands with women throughout my musical journey.
	4:10pm chris: Bleet, bleeeeet, JakeG.
	4:12pm Jodi: I read that Hillary Clinton sang for a short time with Anita Kerr. This must be urban myth.
	4:13pm Andrew Waterloo: Mish Way (White Lung) had this to say on the topic (read the extended part) whitelung.tumblr.com...
	4:13pm Dean: Here's SF Chronicle on the gender gap in orchestras et al.: http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Gender-gap-Tech-could-take-a-cue-from-orchestras-5633277.php
	4:13pm JakeGould: GOOD SHEEPLE CHRIS. HEY MY KEYBOARD IS IN CAPS LOKC? SHOULD I JUST THROW IT OUT THE WINDWO. I’M AN AMERICAN IF THAT MEANS ANYTHING.
	4:14pm r i s k y: Kurt, we about it!
	4:15pm r i s k y: Let's get some estrogen pumping maaan!
	4:15pm Offal: Throw it away Jake. Don't recycle. New ones from China are cheep. Sam's Club has them. They have 99 cent wieners on Fridays.
	4:15pm Cecile: Good for Mish. I do think a lot of staying sane is not putting up with crap and having support from your friends.
	4:15pm fred: @cecile: Supporting them for their music has nothing to do with their being female. That's the point
	4:15pm chris: Jake, this is a known issue with Interwebs™ 2015. Please restart the internet and try your comment again.
	4:17pm Andrew Waterloo: Are there a lot of female conductors in classical?
	4:17pm JakeGould: Chris, I just threw it out the window and then bought a new keyboard. So I’ll stick a paperclip in it the next time.
	4:18pm Kurt Gottschalk: there are not a lot, no, but there is one, andrew, your countrywoman barbara hannigan is tearing up the road!
	4:19pm Cecile: I know, fred. And even with my newfound solidarity, I'm not going to buy a Tori Amos record any time soon.
	4:19pm Cecile: Personal taste is the big decider.
	4:19pm Dean: @Andrew: Not to my knowledge. (And if you read the SF Chron piece, ain't Zubin Mehta a piece of work?) But Berkeley--the city, not the university--has a highly acclaimed female conductor, Joana Carneiro.
	4:22pm fred: @Cecile: I didn't meant that (Supporting them for their music has nothing to do with their being female. That's the point) as questioning what you said, but as a statement of my own opinion. I suck at this
	4:22pm Cecile: I get it, fred.
	4:23pm Andrew Waterloo: @Dean, I was wondering because Guelph has a female conductor, and I figure knowing 2 symphonies isn't a good frame of reference.
	4:24pm Cecile: I can be a little bit contentious for no reason sometimes. It's all good.
	4:26pm TDK60: This is interesting, the Iva Bittova. I see it's a Chris Cutler piece.
	4:28pm Dean: I suspect (meaning I have no firm basis for knowing) the discrepancy in conducting and musical direction is similar to that in composing. Not a whole lot of female composers who make their livings at it. I believe Carneiro is trying to feature more compositions by women. Glancing at some upcoming shows, I see pieces by Saariaho and Gubaidulina, which only superficially makes my point.
	4:28pm Kurt Gottschalk: yeah, she's fantastic. funny that i had a whole set of female performers lined up for the second hour prior to all the conversation on the playlist today.
	4:28pm fred: @Cecile: Be yourself and say what you think. I'll learn from it, the mess is part of the learning. It improves it. Pointless contention is part of it
	4:29pm Cecile: you are completely right! hahahaha
	4:30pm still b/p: I like that -- there's PC, and then there's PC.
	4:30pm Cecile: my husband and I have arguments where we agree on 99% of a subject, but split hairs on the fine details. We call it "loudly agreeing".
	4:30pm Cecile: hahahahah, Kurt!
	4:32pm Kurt Gottschalk: <3 JONI
	4:33pm V Priceless: agreed
	4:33pm ranjit: <3 miniature minotaurs!
	4:34pm Kurt Gottschalk: awwww, ranjit
	4:35pm still b/p: Joni's awake, not awake..her friend is calling the shots, and why...the current story scramble seems unfortunate.
	4:37pm Cecile: What she's suffering from is believed to be a psychiatric rather than physical condition, but it sounds like it's miserable nonetheless. Morgellon's syndrome
	4:37pm Clay: Morgellons. So bizarre. I've come to appreciate the Jaco/Pat Metheny Joni stuff more.
	4:38pm Kurt Gottschalk: i agree, b/p. it's also a shame that we're used to having such immediate information that we think it's our business. what we hear when should be up to those closest to her, not tmz (who got it wrong anyway).
	4:38pm TDK60: 'Coyote' is one of my fave Joni tunes.
	4:38pm Cecile: Exactly, Kurt.
	4:39pm Kurt Gottschalk: and it sounds so hot with the band playing it.
	4:40pm TDK60: You seen this film? The Band is playing behind her. The song comes to its end but Joni is still in the song, dancing, like it's hard for her to get out it!
	4:40pm fred: Sorry Kurt, but you can't play her and that card at the same time.
	4:42pm Kurt Gottschalk: tdk, yes! fred, no?
	4:43pm ranjit: hey Kurt, is it ok to promote a friend's gig on your playlist?
	4:43pm ranjit: (it's thematically appropriate, I promise)
	4:44pm Kurt Gottschalk: go for it, ranjit
	4:44pm ranjit: Yay! Amy X Neuburg - who did this amazing cover of California - undercoverpresents.bandcamp.com...
	4:45pm ranjit: - is playing in Park Slope next thursday theoldstonehouse.org...
	4:45pm fred: You're the DJ, you're right
	4:45pm Kurt Gottschalk: amy's great! i never knew about that cover.
	4:48pm Kurt Gottschalk: fred, i don't have to be "right." her people have put out that she's hospitalized and asked her fans to keep her int their thoughts. i am a big fan of hers and i am keeping her in my thoughts by playing her on the radio. i think it's lamentable, however, that there is always such a rush to information, especially about the personal affairs of a very private person. two different issues. obviously she's not well, but we do not "deserve to know" until it is deemed that we know how she is.
	4:50pm Kurt Gottschalk: not trying to debate with you either, just trying to say how i see it.
	4:59pm V Priceless: Yeah! Put THAT in your giant sippy cup, Harvey Levin!
	4:59pm JakeGould: In other news, are there any people here who are on Twitter and want to help me point out a typo to a famous comedic actor on Twitter? He only has 2 tweets and is beloved. We should all work together to get him to fix this issue.
	5:02pm Kurt Gottschalk: thanks for backing me up, pops
	5:03pm V Priceless: any time, kiddo! ; )
	5:03pm fred: @Kurt: that's so besides what I said I don't know where to begin. My reference to your being the DJ had nothing to do with that, at all. It was irrational on my part, and I'll take full blame for it. I can only apologize, and try to understand why I lapsed this way. That's not a way out, but that is stalling. I might figure it out, until then I'll shut up
	5:04pm Dean: Johnny Nash 45 at 33 reminds me that Sly & Robbie are playing a tiny venue in Oakland next weekend!
	5:06pm JakeGould: @fred: You should respect boundaries. That is it. Someone wants to honor someone, that’s it.
	5:07pm Dean: Well, well, Wolfgang Mitterer is on that Herbert record.
	5:09pm common: hey...by the by...beeeeeeeersies!!!
	5:10pm Kurt Gottschalk: no worries, fred. sorry if i took your words the wrong way.
	5:11pm V Priceless: what's on tap, comm?
	5:12pm common: yuengling premium! per usual.
	5:14pm fred: @JakeGould: Could you tell me where I erred? I want to know. I think I fucked up, but I can only own up to it if I fully understand it
	5:14pm Cecile: @fred, it's cool.
	5:15pm Kurt Gottschalk: fred, i think jake meant people should respect boundaries. it wasn't aimed at you.
	5:16pm V Priceless: nice! Been on a Blue Moon First Peach Ale binge here...they're not making it anymore - grab it while ya can!
	5:17pm fred: @cecile: It was definitely aimed at me. Meaning that I failed there. I need to know how it happened, to make sure it doesn't happen again
	5:18pm Cecile: @fred, I would disregard that comment. It was piling on top of what Kurt said. Kurt is cool with you, leave it at that.
	5:20pm Kurt Gottschalk: we're all good. everybody cool in the minotaur lair.
	5:22pm Sem Chumbo: So right, KG, let's sing a chorus of "Why Can't We Be Friends", and let it go that that.:-D
	5:22pm Cecile: hug it out, bro!
	5:22pm Kurt Gottschalk: that song sucks and you're stupid for suggesting it.
	5:25pm Cecile: truce over in 3, 2, 1...
	5:26pm V Priceless: haha Kurt! yeah, fred - lots of times, the subtleties of intent get lost in translation amidst this virtual realm - you are cool, and I think I speak 'en masse' when I say we are cool with you being cool! I hope that last line didn't confuse you as much as it did me!
	5:27pm Marcel M: Hi Kurt and friends.
	5:27pm Kurt Gottschalk: i gotta bring up the spirits here in this place.
	5:28pm common: marcel!
	5:28pm Cecile: I gotta get this album
	5:28pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Buckladelic ! ...I'm like an FMU Newbie of late - just wanna tell everybody how great they are & how much I appreciate the program...
	5:29pm Kurt Gottschalk: cecile, it is so solid. three discs, dead solid.
	5:29pm Kurt Gottschalk: thanks, revs
	5:29pm Cecile: good ta hear. the world needs the funk
	5:30pm fred: No confusion that Funkadelic can't cure
	5:31pm Cecile: you are 1000% correct, sir!
	5:32pm Dean: Dang, I step out to buy a Mom's Day card and I miss the Kagel and Residents. Pianist Alexandre Tharaud has a nice disk of Kagel piano pieces.
	5:32pm common: feels like friday now!
	5:35pm V Priceless: This is pretty funny - heard it on Irwin's show a while back: www.youtube.com...
	5:41pm Cecile: adios, all!
	5:41pm V Priceless: where's my lampshade?
	5:43pm V Priceless: see ya, Cecile - safe travels!
	5:44pm Mary Wing: Th'PURPLEONE!
	5:49pm Marcel M: Bue Cecile!
	5:49pm Marcel M: Or bye
	5:50pm fred: Do we need to have him dead before we acknowledge his greatness?
	5:52pm Kurt Gottschalk: I DON'T!
	5:53pm V Priceless: this sounds like a brawl at the Black Lodge
	5:53pm Kurt Gottschalk: this is who did the live dub to 'under seige' last night
	5:55pm Marcel M: @V Priceless: I was just thinking something similar
	5:55pm V Priceless: Yes! Sorry I missed it!
	5:57pm V Priceless: Chose and Loose??
	5:58pm Mary Wing: Chose and lose?
	5:58pm V Priceless: haha..I am useless
	5:59pm still b/p: Hearing Bob sing this: great. Spending the whole evening or many evenings in a tavern with Bob: not sure.
	5:59pm V Priceless: Thanx KG!
	6:00pm Deam: OTOH, Goulet rhymes with poulet.

Miniature Minotaurs with Kurt Gottschalk: Playlist from May 8, 2015

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