WFMU: The Long Rally with Scott McDowell: Playlist from January 2, 2019

Listener comments!
	9:04am duke: Happy 2019 Scott
	9:04am duke: and everyone
	9:07am ben abs: Hola Scott & gang, what duke said
	9:09am Linda Lee: Happy New Year, Scott! Low key is wonderful. I'm all for it.
	9:10am prudy: you made my day, Scott, with Buzzin Fly. Thank You!
	9:10am Sem: Good morning, Scott, and hello, Long Rallyers, all.
	9:11am Scott McDowell: Hey everyone happy 2019
	9:12am melinda: Hi Scott and everyone!
	9:12am Linda Lee: bittersweet song. a little taste of a certain place & time. so pretty.
	9:13am Linda Lee: can't ya just see walkin' hand & hand, along the sand, without smartphones?
	9:15am Ken From Hyde Park: Rally 2019!
	9:15am Linda Lee: hi melinda! happy new year!
	9:15am thatpatsmith: Love to WFMU land, one and all
	9:16am TDK60: Ah, the great Tim Buckley.
	9:17am TDK60: Mountains of the Moon! One of my fave Grateful Dead songs (not a Deadhead, by the way)
	9:18am melinda: Hi Linda!
	9:18am Linda Lee: i always liked it too. a little gem.
	9:18am melinda: I love mellow folky mornings on FMU.
	9:19am Linda Lee: wait ~ are we not supposed to like dead songs? @melinda ~ i do too.
	9:25am TDK60: LL: You may have noticed there are Dead dislikers about. I'm not a disliker, nor a Deadmaniac; I simply like some of their music. I try not to put down music I don't like on the WFMU comments board.
	9:26am Linda Lee: you're a better man than i, sir. :-D actually, my cat is worse. sometimes he just turns off the radio with his feet & when i attempt a remedy, he bites me.
	9:28am Linda Lee: he did like that Julianna Hatfield on Wake, though.
	9:28am TDK60: .."try;" the other day I put down a band and a listener chimed in in favor. The reason I try to avoid is it really may hurt others' feelings..
	9:29am Linda Lee: i understand. but honestly, here's a comments board for listeners & we're not gonna debate music? of course we are! & i think we should.
	9:29am David Colangelo: Yea...Terje Rypdal....singing guitar
	9:29am steveo: good morning & happy to be here, listening
	9:30am sphere: hello everybody
	9:33am TDK60: I usually do like ECM music; it's opened a lot of aural space for me. // Of course, LL folks should criticize music here if they want. I just try to stay away from it. I'd rather criticize the government or corporations!
	9:35am Linda Lee: of course! funny thing tho '~ on the fmu boards i like seeing political discussion at a minimum & music talk primarily.
	9:35am TigerSoul: Just 'discovered' Bobo Stenson via Tidal streaming and love all of his work
	9:35am zopa: Hey.... wait a minute! Corporations are our friends! :)
	9:36am TDK60: ..but, if all of a sudden, WFMU started playing bubblegum pop all the time or something, I'd likely raise a shitstorm... Or if they played Big Blood a lot...
	9:37am Linda Lee: don't care for Big Blood? there's a station favorite, i think.
	9:39am TDK60: ..just kidding LL. I love Big Blood and they are climbing the WFMU Charts.
	9:40am Linda Lee: i see. personally, once the community really embraces the term 'vinyls' ~ that's when i'll pitch a hissy. :-D
	9:41am Linda Lee: i'm inordinately annoyed by this.
	9:42am melinda: it's a vinyl!
	9:42am the Canterbury wood-elf: Hey Scott, just tuned in and caught your astute comments on the Dead. Amen. Mountains of the Moon was the pinnacle for me! In an early 70s interview, Garcia said his favourite British band of the time was Pentangle, which totally makes sense to me.
	9:42am TDK60: ..well Scott, J.A. had a folk-rock dimension, and Quicksilver Messenger Service's 1st tune on their 1st LP was folky Hamilton Camp's protest tune "Pride of Man."
	9:43am sphere: @ Linda Lee - i'm totally in with you in the the non-"vinyls" camp.
	9:44am Linda Lee: yeah, i was always under the impression that there was a lot of folk in a scene that rode in on a national folk revival! thank you, sphere. whoever came up with that one should have his tires slashed.
	9:45am sphere: also, if we're talking West Coast bands who dug folk music, we can't forget the Byrds amirite?
	9:45am TDK60: LL & sphere: yeah, "vinyls" is abhorrent. Whatever happened to "wax discs" or just "records"?
	9:47am Linda Lee: i'll bet it was the british bands who were more uniformly into american blues. in the states it was british folk! :-D
	9:47am David Colangelo: Yo Scott, Dig these jams...any Dave Rempis, or Nick Mazzarela in your bag? How bout Rob Clearfield?
	9:48am Linda Lee: in my day back in the last century it was always records or albums. 33s, 45s or 78s. the cardboard record cover was a jacket. the paper liner was a sleeve. they're getting those wrong too. :-D
	9:49am Linda Lee: no,i correct myself. it was LPs, 45s & 78s. at my age we forget..
	9:50am TDK60: Janis Joplin & crew were more bluesy/soul-oriented. Blues was undergoing a second wind in the '60s -B.B. King, Buddy Guy, etc. And folk was big too.
	9:51am Linda Lee: true true. i'd bet Janis' bands were bluesy because of Janis though. she loved the blues. and! i'll bet blues got a second wind in the states 'cos of the brits!
	9:51am steveo: can free jazz rock?
	9:52am Linda Lee: i really don't think the blues form was much appreciated here commercially 'til the british invasion.
	9:56am Linda Lee: i was bequeathed a lot of early 60s folk records from a friend of mine, who bought them new. not much american blues there. lots of british isles material.
	9:57am Linda Lee: so while this was going on here, the british kids were digging american blues & they brought it back over when they hit.
	9:58am TDK60: ..I used to get mad if a guest put an LP back in the jacket without the sleeve. I can now admit this publicly after all these years.
	10:00am Linda Lee: guilty as charged, in my own home. but i was always the type to pile them up, too. on & off the turntable. sometimes on the floor!
	10:02am Linda Lee: i was the only one in my home, growing up, who was into records. i was an only child, so no one instructed me. it was always about the sound, not the medium, with me. made a terrific mess.
	10:03am Andrew Waterloo: I think a lot of the British invasion bands when they showed up playing American music to an American audience that thought it was new.
	10:03am Linda Lee: @Andrew Waterloo ~ yep!
	10:04am The Oscar: Mornin' all! As a former record store clerk near a college campus, "vinyls" gives me PTSD (though it could be worse-- I once had a Harvard freshman ask about Beatles "track sets"). Also, as a buyer for the same store, I can vouch for the importance of inner sleeves-- we had so many great collections come in that were utterly ruined by gritty cardboard jackets.
	10:05am Linda Lee: i think that might have happened because of segregated radio. in essence the brits had better access to the blues than the average white kid here. that might've bee because of receptivity to what black servicemen shared in europe during the war. don't know.
	10:06am TDK60: ..this is a great discussion but, suddenly, I have to leave! waaah….
	10:06am Linda Lee: wow, track sets! sounds like track suits! that guy was just trying to start the next 'vinyls'..
	10:07am Linda Lee: see you soon TDK60! i should leave too.
	10:09am Linda Lee: i'm still not sure why 'vinyls' irks me so. maybe it's because folks who've just discovered analogue technology shouldn't pretend they're inventing it?
	10:10am The Oscar: @LL That's what I thought he said at first? When I asked for clarification, he first said "The rock band," as if my confusion was with the "Beatles" part of the equation, then clarified "You know, the really big CDs."
	10:10am Linda Lee: meme seen last week: aging couple at the dinner table says, 'wait! you mean people still buy vinyls?'
	10:10am The Oscar: (Er, "first!" not "first?")
	10:11am sphere: @ LL - I think the term "vinyls" just sounds terrible and it is redundant to boot.
	10:11am Linda Lee: @The Oscar ~ that's damn funny.
	10:12am Linda Lee: anyway, he was wrong even on his terms. they're not big CDs! jeez!
	10:12am steveo: i like "track sets"; a "brilliant" back-formation
	10:14am Linda Lee: yes it is, sphere. again, though, i'll accept 'leathers' for clothing. but this 'vinyls' .. no nonono.
	10:15am The Oscar: The single most common record store conversation, which I heard nearly every single day for eight years: (Two students enter; one thumbs through vinyl for five minutes) KID A: Do you have a vinyl player? KID B: No, but I'm thinking about getting one. (Kid B continues browsing for another five minutes, and they both leave)
	10:16am Linda Lee: ahahaha. so they're in the store just for the covers. i've done that too, but i did have a 'vinyl player'.
	10:17am Granny Spicy Tuna: sorry i'm snoozing through this fascinating and illuminating conversation. I have never heard anyone say "vinyls" and i think i would scream if i heard someone say that.
	10:20am Granny Spicy Tuna: As for "albums," as someone who has an actual collection of old 78's in actual albums, that's what an "album" is for me.
	10:23am Mark Williams: The vocal group on this Perry production is actually the Blue Bells. Came out on a 45 originally
	10:25am ottovonbqe: I think record nerds who have seizures when kids say "vinyls" need to look in the mirror. I mean, someone told them records are made of vinyl, they didn't figure it out on their own.
	10:25am Linda Lee: just wait, Granny. you will.
	10:26am Greg from ZONE 5: Happy New Year, Scott and all!
	10:26am Linda Lee: ho! interesting! a record album for us was always the record! how funny!
	10:26am Scott McDowell: hny greg
	10:27am Lvonbinda Lee: how old are you, ottovonbqe? tell us truthfully. :-D
	10:27am Granny Spicy Tuna: @ottovonbqe i recall all the horrors i cause my elders when i first started mixing in crowds of music nerds. I wouldn't want to be deprived of that same rite of passage.
	10:27am ottovonbqe: 44
	10:28am ottovonbqe: I am scanning my long form birth certificate right now. Just a moment...
	10:28am Granny Spicy Tuna: i'm 49 and i started hanging out on Haight Street in the mid-80's. Plenty of Summer of Love burnouts around for me to horrify with my mangling of their legacy.
	10:30am Granny Spicy Tuna: My sweetie once taunted a Haight Street elder with, "i bet you didn't even have acid back then." The guy exploded in outrage!!! Heh.
	10:30am Lvonbinda Lee: got it. this is a generational thing. it's not about knowing what records are made of. most of us do know that.
	10:31am glenn: records are made of awesome. except for the bad ones.
	10:31am Granny Spicy Tuna: So, c'mon, kids, bring it.
	10:32am sphere: i don't like "vinyls" on pure aesthetic grounds. it's not like i'll suffer any actual harm if someone uses it, but i reserve the right to not like it.
	10:32am sphere: oh and 48
	10:34am Lvonbinda Lee: but really, i'd better put on my cottons & canvases now. must get onto the my metal to get to the brick & glass.
	10:34am zopa: the fripp is strong in this one.
	10:34am ottovonbqe: It seems so obvious I feel silly saying it, but record stores should keep the vinyls cordoned off the way video stores used to have an adult section. Over 4o only.
	10:34am steveo: i just call them phonautograms
	10:34am Linda Lee: cheers! or, air! :-D
	10:35am steveo: you kids can step off my lawn
	10:35am sphere: i think stevo has the right idea. bye LL :)
	10:35am ben abs: As a 32(?) yr old, I've always used record and vinyl pretty interchangeably without putting much thought into it, or having been aware of any stigma. That said, going forwards i will aim to please my elders ;)
	10:36am Granny Spicy Tuna: i think it's really important to annoy the elders— in correct dosages, man. It's stimulating and keeps the brain active. I enjoy being horrified by the youngers.
	10:38am βrian: This is a nice re-entry track. It's been a few weeks ...
	10:44am The Oscar: I'm 34 and got my first turntable as a teenager in the late '90s, which puts me squarely between the two generations. Kids didn't say "vinyls" back then because literally no one I knew talked or cared about vinyl. (Also, I got really spoiled by '90s used vinyl prices, but that's another story).
	10:45am Andrew Waterloo: I was thought it was funny that young adults were so persistent on calling them vinyls even though you were at X Records, a record shop, on record store day.
	10:45am sphere: The first time I was shocked by younger people was when I noticed teenagers wearing PJ bottoms (or simulacrums) in malls. That actually freaked me out.
	10:47am Andrew Waterloo: @sphere I know, it was a bold enough move to go to the grocery store in PJs after hours.
	10:49am Greg from ZONE 5: Amen, sphere. And slippers.
	10:51am sphere: Actually, I was quite pleased. I had been waiting for a good "what about the youth?" freakout for some time.
	10:52am βrian: Wearing knit caps in heated spaces boosts the cog diss for me.
	10:53am Neanderthal Head: that's the best album title I've heard in a while.
	10:53am The Oscar: All that being said, I also got sick pretty fast of older customers at the store complaining about kids buying turntables and records. As long as they're listening and getting into it, I only see it as a good thing, regardless of any perceived "trendiness."
	10:53am Ike: I thought everybody who said "vinyls" instead of "vinyl" was being an irritating wiseass. Don't tell me anybody says "vinyls" in earnest. I refuse to believe that.
	10:53am ottovonbqe: +1 on millenials and their damn hats
	10:54am Scott McDowell: Public slippers,.. Have some self respect! HAHA
	10:56am Scott McDowell: this trend of young people wearing slippers in public as shoes has spread to the moms!
	10:56am steveo: hny, ike. i missed you yesterday when no one kept it going after my sly felder dis
	10:57am Scott McDowell: I'm sure Fabio has a take on this problem.
	10:58am Andrew Waterloo: I wear a knitted cap most of the time, but it's all about hair control, and of course it comes off when it's too warm.
	10:58am The Oscar: I've worn slippers in public, but only because I fractured my arm last summer and needed to get to the doctor wearing only clothes I could put on with one hand. (The look was completed with a Hawaiian shirt and basketball shorts).
	10:59am Andrew Waterloo: But, there's always that thing where you're setting in a fairly nice restaurant, and you look over, and there's a group of people, the women are dressed nicely, and the men are dressed OK except for the filthy baseball caps they're wearing.
	11:00am Ike: @steveo, yeah, oops, I fell asleep on the job there. I'll have to insult Don Felder twice as much next Tuesday to make up for it.
	11:03am steveo: lovely piece here, dire wolves. are the dire wolves with no parenthetical qualifiers the same as this dire wolves? seems a similar style from what i remember
	11:03am zopa: Googling Felder Slippers has interesting results.
	11:03am βrian: When walking and wearing a baseball hat, always follow your visor.
	11:05am The Oscar: The other thing about the boomers that enraged me way more than anything about the younger customers would be when they simultaneously complained that our prices were too high and that we put all the "good" stuff online, despite the fact that most of the stuff online wound up there because it was too valuable to price reasonably in the store.
	11:07am Ike: @steveo, wow, a (presumably) new member of the Anti-Felder Resistance called ledzeppelinsucks did a great job filling in for me yesterday with this: "this disgusting construction worker anthem should be fed feet first through a mulcher and tossed into the dustbin of history." I raise a belated glass of bubbly to you, ledzepsucks, wherever you are. Cheers.
	11:09am steveo: @ike haha i missed that one (i'm ok with construction workers, though -- i'm even a little envious in some ways)
	11:10am tim from champaign: Wow, I really like the 3 Way Tie for Last and have to say that this is a most excellent reworking of Price of Paradise.
	11:15am Ike: Oh, duh, I know what I need to do next Tuesday. It should've been obvious. It'll be a Very Special Episode of the Resistance.
	11:18am steveo: delphine blue played this on an excellent fill-in on boxing day
	11:20am steveo: luvv the fuzz
	11:20am Mr. Palchepo.: I’ve been a carpenter for nearly thirty years and we look down on our clients’ book collections.
	11:22am βrian: Are they collections organized by color scheme? Those are the best!
	11:24am Ike: There have been many excellent fill-ins lately: not just Delphine Blue but a bumper crop of the great J. Herweg. Plus: new DJs Kellen606, SV, and Sinead (the last of whom sounds like a great candidate to take over for Clay Pigeon in 15-25 years or whenever he retires, or fill in for him, or whatever).
	11:25am steveo: cool, I'll put some of those on my phone for when i'm out and about
	11:26am Mr. Palchepo.: Business men and The Art of War and their gold digger wives’ self help books.
	11:26am steveo: all-star set
	11:27am ben abs: @Ike agreed, has been a treat to hear a few different shows, was SV the guy who was playing some good black metal?
	11:29am steveo: 25 years? I'm not sure i could survive getting to jersey city before 6 am for 25 years.
	11:30am Jherweg: I bullied Ike into making that comment because he wouldn't give me his audible password, ha ha.
	11:32am Moonbooger: I've seen Eugene Chadbourne in Chattanooga(Chefs Underground)&Asheville(Vincent's Ear)
	11:33am Jeff Golick: Oooh all-time classick here.
	11:39am ⓘⓚⓔ: @ben abs, oh yeah, that's him! Ironically I'm into much of the black metal, but other than that, that's an excellent show. Although I'll take black metal anytime over that sack of putz-weasels called Don Felder!
	11:40am steveo: jazz chair dancing
	11:49am sphere: ike, i am a black metal fan as well. thank goodness the genre has been moving away from "church burning" to "really annoyed Goth."
	11:50am coolsoule: Wow, serge chaloff - one of the premium bari players - what a pleasant blast from the past. thanks!
	11:52am Jherweg: That Khan Jamal record is so essential, high praise to Eremite records for reissuing it. I wore out two copies on cd.....
	11:53am Ken From Hyde Park: Thanks, Scott. Keep the rally going.
	11:55am Scott McDowell: aww yeah Serge Chaloff fans unite
	11:56am steveo: see you scott; thanks for all the great musics (some on vinyls)
	11:57am ben abs: Ike - gotta say I did like a lot of the BM stuff he played. On .a related note, sad news that Nicolas Cage's son has split up his BM band to concentrate on the new genre he's invented - ghost metal. Thanks for a great show as always Scott.
	11:59am Sem: Thx, Scott! Love the show.
	12:01pm P-90: Thanks for The Long Rally in 2018, Scott. Happy 2019!
	12:02pm Ike: Thanks Scott!

The Long Rally with Scott McDowell: Playlist from January 2, 2019

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Approx. start time
Grachan Moncur III	Hipnosis "Hipnosis" by "Grachan Moncur III"			0:00:00 (Pop-up)
Tim Buckley	Buzzin' Fly "Buzzin' Fly" by "Tim Buckley"	Happy Sad		0:16:05 (Pop-up)
PG Six	Mountains of the Moon "Mountains of the Moon" by "PG Six"	7/26/17	SLSC	0:22:47 (Pop-up)
Oren Ambarchi & Jim O'Rourke	Hence (Side B)	Hence	Editions Mego	0:26:19 (Pop-up)
Jan Garbarek/Bobo Stensen/Terje Rypdal/Arild Andersen/Jon Christensen	Song of Space	SART	ECM	0:33:15 (Pop-up)

Frank Lowe Quartet	Whew "Whew" by "Frank Lowe Quartet"	Out Loud	Triple Point Records	0:48:54 (Pop-up)
Bobby Vince Paunetto	Little Rico: Little Rico's Theme	Nu Yorica! Culture Clash in New York City: Experiments in Latin Music 1970-1977	Soul Jazz	1:11:30 (Pop-up)

Dudu Pukwana	Baloyi "Baloyi" by "Dudu Pukwana"	In the Townships		1:21:43 (Pop-up)
Lee Scratch Perry & the Upsetters	Come Along			1:27:21 (Pop-up)
Joshua Abrams & Natural Information Society	St. Cloud	Simultonality	Eremite	1:29:58 (Pop-up)
Sarah Louise	Nighttime Birds and Morning Stars	Nighttime Birds and Morning Stars	Thrill Jockey	1:34:33 (Pop-up)
Jon Hassell	Ordinary Mind "Ordinary Mind" by "Jon Hassell"	Dream Theory in Malaya: Fourth World Volume Two	Tak:til	1:42:35 (Pop-up)

Dire Wolves (Just Exactly Perfect Sisters Band)	side 1	Shootout at the Dildo Factory	Eiderdown	1:51:25 (Pop-up)
Sunwatchers and and Eugene Chadbourne	The Price of Paradise	3 Characters	Amish	2:13:29 (Pop-up)
Arian Shafiee	2 Hits of West Coast Electric	A Scarlet Fail	VDSQ	2:18:34 (Pop-up)
Gong Gong Gong 工工工	Something's Happening	Siren 7"	Wharf Cat Records	2:22:51 (Pop-up)
Brandon Seabrook Trio	Bovicidal "Bovicidal" by "Brandon Seabrook Trio"	Convulsionaries	Astral Spirits	2:27:43 (Pop-up)

Khan Jamal Creative Arts Ensemble	Inner Peace	Drum Dance to the Motherland	Eremite	2:39:07 (Pop-up)
Serge Chaloff	I've Got the World on a String	Blue Serge	Capitol	2:54:23 (Pop-up)
David Holland Quartet	Conference of the Birds	Conference of the Birds	ECM	3:01:29 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	9:04am duke: Happy 2019 Scott
	9:04am duke: and everyone
	9:07am ben abs: Hola Scott & gang, what duke said
	9:09am Linda Lee: Happy New Year, Scott! Low key is wonderful. I'm all for it.
	9:10am prudy: you made my day, Scott, with Buzzin Fly. Thank You!
	9:10am Sem: Good morning, Scott, and hello, Long Rallyers, all.
	9:11am Scott McDowell: Hey everyone happy 2019
	9:12am melinda: Hi Scott and everyone!
	9:12am Linda Lee: bittersweet song. a little taste of a certain place & time. so pretty.
	9:13am Linda Lee: can't ya just see walkin' hand & hand, along the sand, without smartphones?
	9:15am Ken From Hyde Park: Rally 2019!
	9:15am Linda Lee: hi melinda! happy new year!
	9:15am thatpatsmith: Love to WFMU land, one and all
	9:16am TDK60: Ah, the great Tim Buckley.
	9:17am TDK60: Mountains of the Moon! One of my fave Grateful Dead songs (not a Deadhead, by the way)
	9:18am melinda: Hi Linda!
	9:18am Linda Lee: i always liked it too. a little gem.
	9:18am melinda: I love mellow folky mornings on FMU.
	9:19am Linda Lee: wait ~ are we not supposed to like dead songs? @melinda ~ i do too.
	9:25am TDK60: LL: You may have noticed there are Dead dislikers about. I'm not a disliker, nor a Deadmaniac; I simply like some of their music. I try not to put down music I don't like on the WFMU comments board.
	9:26am Linda Lee: you're a better man than i, sir. :-D actually, my cat is worse. sometimes he just turns off the radio with his feet & when i attempt a remedy, he bites me.
	9:28am Linda Lee: he did like that Julianna Hatfield on Wake, though.
	9:28am TDK60: .."try;" the other day I put down a band and a listener chimed in in favor. The reason I try to avoid is it really may hurt others' feelings..
	9:29am Linda Lee: i understand. but honestly, here's a comments board for listeners & we're not gonna debate music? of course we are! & i think we should.
	9:29am David Colangelo: Yea...Terje Rypdal....singing guitar
	9:29am steveo: good morning & happy to be here, listening
	9:30am sphere: hello everybody
	9:33am TDK60: I usually do like ECM music; it's opened a lot of aural space for me. // Of course, LL folks should criticize music here if they want. I just try to stay away from it. I'd rather criticize the government or corporations!
	9:35am Linda Lee: of course! funny thing tho '~ on the fmu boards i like seeing political discussion at a minimum & music talk primarily.
	9:35am TigerSoul: Just 'discovered' Bobo Stenson via Tidal streaming and love all of his work
	9:35am zopa: Hey.... wait a minute! Corporations are our friends! :)
	9:36am TDK60: ..but, if all of a sudden, WFMU started playing bubblegum pop all the time or something, I'd likely raise a shitstorm... Or if they played Big Blood a lot...
	9:37am Linda Lee: don't care for Big Blood? there's a station favorite, i think.
	9:39am TDK60: ..just kidding LL. I love Big Blood and they are climbing the WFMU Charts.
	9:40am Linda Lee: i see. personally, once the community really embraces the term 'vinyls' ~ that's when i'll pitch a hissy. :-D
	9:41am Linda Lee: i'm inordinately annoyed by this.
	9:42am melinda: it's a vinyl!
	9:42am the Canterbury wood-elf: Hey Scott, just tuned in and caught your astute comments on the Dead. Amen. Mountains of the Moon was the pinnacle for me! In an early 70s interview, Garcia said his favourite British band of the time was Pentangle, which totally makes sense to me.
	9:42am TDK60: ..well Scott, J.A. had a folk-rock dimension, and Quicksilver Messenger Service's 1st tune on their 1st LP was folky Hamilton Camp's protest tune "Pride of Man."
	9:43am sphere: @ Linda Lee - i'm totally in with you in the the non-"vinyls" camp.
	9:44am Linda Lee: yeah, i was always under the impression that there was a lot of folk in a scene that rode in on a national folk revival! thank you, sphere. whoever came up with that one should have his tires slashed.
	9:45am sphere: also, if we're talking West Coast bands who dug folk music, we can't forget the Byrds amirite?
	9:45am TDK60: LL & sphere: yeah, "vinyls" is abhorrent. Whatever happened to "wax discs" or just "records"?
	9:47am Linda Lee: i'll bet it was the british bands who were more uniformly into american blues. in the states it was british folk! :-D
	9:47am David Colangelo: Yo Scott, Dig these jams...any Dave Rempis, or Nick Mazzarela in your bag? How bout Rob Clearfield?
	9:48am Linda Lee: in my day back in the last century it was always records or albums. 33s, 45s or 78s. the cardboard record cover was a jacket. the paper liner was a sleeve. they're getting those wrong too. :-D
	9:49am Linda Lee: no,i correct myself. it was LPs, 45s & 78s. at my age we forget..
	9:50am TDK60: Janis Joplin & crew were more bluesy/soul-oriented. Blues was undergoing a second wind in the '60s -B.B. King, Buddy Guy, etc. And folk was big too.
	9:51am Linda Lee: true true. i'd bet Janis' bands were bluesy because of Janis though. she loved the blues. and! i'll bet blues got a second wind in the states 'cos of the brits!
	9:51am steveo: can free jazz rock?
	9:52am Linda Lee: i really don't think the blues form was much appreciated here commercially 'til the british invasion.
	9:56am Linda Lee: i was bequeathed a lot of early 60s folk records from a friend of mine, who bought them new. not much american blues there. lots of british isles material.
	9:57am Linda Lee: so while this was going on here, the british kids were digging american blues & they brought it back over when they hit.
	9:58am TDK60: ..I used to get mad if a guest put an LP back in the jacket without the sleeve. I can now admit this publicly after all these years.
	10:00am Linda Lee: guilty as charged, in my own home. but i was always the type to pile them up, too. on & off the turntable. sometimes on the floor!
	10:02am Linda Lee: i was the only one in my home, growing up, who was into records. i was an only child, so no one instructed me. it was always about the sound, not the medium, with me. made a terrific mess.
	10:03am Andrew Waterloo: I think a lot of the British invasion bands when they showed up playing American music to an American audience that thought it was new.
	10:03am Linda Lee: @Andrew Waterloo ~ yep!
	10:04am The Oscar: Mornin' all! As a former record store clerk near a college campus, "vinyls" gives me PTSD (though it could be worse-- I once had a Harvard freshman ask about Beatles "track sets"). Also, as a buyer for the same store, I can vouch for the importance of inner sleeves-- we had so many great collections come in that were utterly ruined by gritty cardboard jackets.
	10:05am Linda Lee: i think that might have happened because of segregated radio. in essence the brits had better access to the blues than the average white kid here. that might've bee because of receptivity to what black servicemen shared in europe during the war. don't know.
	10:06am TDK60: ..this is a great discussion but, suddenly, I have to leave! waaah….
	10:06am Linda Lee: wow, track sets! sounds like track suits! that guy was just trying to start the next 'vinyls'..
	10:07am Linda Lee: see you soon TDK60! i should leave too.
	10:09am Linda Lee: i'm still not sure why 'vinyls' irks me so. maybe it's because folks who've just discovered analogue technology shouldn't pretend they're inventing it?
	10:10am The Oscar: @LL That's what I thought he said at first? When I asked for clarification, he first said "The rock band," as if my confusion was with the "Beatles" part of the equation, then clarified "You know, the really big CDs."
	10:10am Linda Lee: meme seen last week: aging couple at the dinner table says, 'wait! you mean people still buy vinyls?'
	10:10am The Oscar: (Er, "first!" not "first?")
	10:11am sphere: @ LL - I think the term "vinyls" just sounds terrible and it is redundant to boot.
	10:11am Linda Lee: @The Oscar ~ that's damn funny.
	10:12am Linda Lee: anyway, he was wrong even on his terms. they're not big CDs! jeez!
	10:12am steveo: i like "track sets"; a "brilliant" back-formation
	10:14am Linda Lee: yes it is, sphere. again, though, i'll accept 'leathers' for clothing. but this 'vinyls' .. no nonono.
	10:15am The Oscar: The single most common record store conversation, which I heard nearly every single day for eight years: (Two students enter; one thumbs through vinyl for five minutes) KID A: Do you have a vinyl player? KID B: No, but I'm thinking about getting one. (Kid B continues browsing for another five minutes, and they both leave)
	10:16am Linda Lee: ahahaha. so they're in the store just for the covers. i've done that too, but i did have a 'vinyl player'.
	10:17am Granny Spicy Tuna: sorry i'm snoozing through this fascinating and illuminating conversation. I have never heard anyone say "vinyls" and i think i would scream if i heard someone say that.
	10:20am Granny Spicy Tuna: As for "albums," as someone who has an actual collection of old 78's in actual albums, that's what an "album" is for me.
	10:23am Mark Williams: The vocal group on this Perry production is actually the Blue Bells. Came out on a 45 originally
	10:25am ottovonbqe: I think record nerds who have seizures when kids say "vinyls" need to look in the mirror. I mean, someone told them records are made of vinyl, they didn't figure it out on their own.
	10:25am Linda Lee: just wait, Granny. you will.
	10:26am Greg from ZONE 5: Happy New Year, Scott and all!
	10:26am Linda Lee: ho! interesting! a record album for us was always the record! how funny!
	10:26am Scott McDowell: hny greg
	10:27am Lvonbinda Lee: how old are you, ottovonbqe? tell us truthfully. :-D
	10:27am Granny Spicy Tuna: @ottovonbqe i recall all the horrors i cause my elders when i first started mixing in crowds of music nerds. I wouldn't want to be deprived of that same rite of passage.
	10:27am ottovonbqe: 44
	10:28am ottovonbqe: I am scanning my long form birth certificate right now. Just a moment...
	10:28am Granny Spicy Tuna: i'm 49 and i started hanging out on Haight Street in the mid-80's. Plenty of Summer of Love burnouts around for me to horrify with my mangling of their legacy.
	10:30am Granny Spicy Tuna: My sweetie once taunted a Haight Street elder with, "i bet you didn't even have acid back then." The guy exploded in outrage!!! Heh.
	10:30am Lvonbinda Lee: got it. this is a generational thing. it's not about knowing what records are made of. most of us do know that.
	10:31am glenn: records are made of awesome. except for the bad ones.
	10:31am Granny Spicy Tuna: So, c'mon, kids, bring it.
	10:32am sphere: i don't like "vinyls" on pure aesthetic grounds. it's not like i'll suffer any actual harm if someone uses it, but i reserve the right to not like it.
	10:32am sphere: oh and 48
	10:34am Lvonbinda Lee: but really, i'd better put on my cottons & canvases now. must get onto the my metal to get to the brick & glass.
	10:34am zopa: the fripp is strong in this one.
	10:34am ottovonbqe: It seems so obvious I feel silly saying it, but record stores should keep the vinyls cordoned off the way video stores used to have an adult section. Over 4o only.
	10:34am steveo: i just call them phonautograms
	10:34am Linda Lee: cheers! or, air! :-D
	10:35am steveo: you kids can step off my lawn
	10:35am sphere: i think stevo has the right idea. bye LL :)
	10:35am ben abs: As a 32(?) yr old, I've always used record and vinyl pretty interchangeably without putting much thought into it, or having been aware of any stigma. That said, going forwards i will aim to please my elders ;)
	10:36am Granny Spicy Tuna: i think it's really important to annoy the elders— in correct dosages, man. It's stimulating and keeps the brain active. I enjoy being horrified by the youngers.
	10:38am βrian: This is a nice re-entry track. It's been a few weeks ...
	10:44am The Oscar: I'm 34 and got my first turntable as a teenager in the late '90s, which puts me squarely between the two generations. Kids didn't say "vinyls" back then because literally no one I knew talked or cared about vinyl. (Also, I got really spoiled by '90s used vinyl prices, but that's another story).
	10:45am Andrew Waterloo: I was thought it was funny that young adults were so persistent on calling them vinyls even though you were at X Records, a record shop, on record store day.
	10:45am sphere: The first time I was shocked by younger people was when I noticed teenagers wearing PJ bottoms (or simulacrums) in malls. That actually freaked me out.
	10:47am Andrew Waterloo: @sphere I know, it was a bold enough move to go to the grocery store in PJs after hours.
	10:49am Greg from ZONE 5: Amen, sphere. And slippers.
	10:51am sphere: Actually, I was quite pleased. I had been waiting for a good "what about the youth?" freakout for some time.
	10:52am βrian: Wearing knit caps in heated spaces boosts the cog diss for me.
	10:53am Neanderthal Head: that's the best album title I've heard in a while.
	10:53am The Oscar: All that being said, I also got sick pretty fast of older customers at the store complaining about kids buying turntables and records. As long as they're listening and getting into it, I only see it as a good thing, regardless of any perceived "trendiness."
	10:53am Ike: I thought everybody who said "vinyls" instead of "vinyl" was being an irritating wiseass. Don't tell me anybody says "vinyls" in earnest. I refuse to believe that.
	10:53am ottovonbqe: +1 on millenials and their damn hats
	10:54am Scott McDowell: Public slippers,.. Have some self respect! HAHA
	10:56am Scott McDowell: this trend of young people wearing slippers in public as shoes has spread to the moms!
	10:56am steveo: hny, ike. i missed you yesterday when no one kept it going after my sly felder dis
	10:57am Scott McDowell: I'm sure Fabio has a take on this problem.
	10:58am Andrew Waterloo: I wear a knitted cap most of the time, but it's all about hair control, and of course it comes off when it's too warm.
	10:58am The Oscar: I've worn slippers in public, but only because I fractured my arm last summer and needed to get to the doctor wearing only clothes I could put on with one hand. (The look was completed with a Hawaiian shirt and basketball shorts).
	10:59am Andrew Waterloo: But, there's always that thing where you're setting in a fairly nice restaurant, and you look over, and there's a group of people, the women are dressed nicely, and the men are dressed OK except for the filthy baseball caps they're wearing.
	11:00am Ike: @steveo, yeah, oops, I fell asleep on the job there. I'll have to insult Don Felder twice as much next Tuesday to make up for it.
	11:03am steveo: lovely piece here, dire wolves. are the dire wolves with no parenthetical qualifiers the same as this dire wolves? seems a similar style from what i remember
	11:03am zopa: Googling Felder Slippers has interesting results.
	11:03am βrian: When walking and wearing a baseball hat, always follow your visor.
	11:05am The Oscar: The other thing about the boomers that enraged me way more than anything about the younger customers would be when they simultaneously complained that our prices were too high and that we put all the "good" stuff online, despite the fact that most of the stuff online wound up there because it was too valuable to price reasonably in the store.
	11:07am Ike: @steveo, wow, a (presumably) new member of the Anti-Felder Resistance called ledzeppelinsucks did a great job filling in for me yesterday with this: "this disgusting construction worker anthem should be fed feet first through a mulcher and tossed into the dustbin of history." I raise a belated glass of bubbly to you, ledzepsucks, wherever you are. Cheers.
	11:09am steveo: @ike haha i missed that one (i'm ok with construction workers, though -- i'm even a little envious in some ways)
	11:10am tim from champaign: Wow, I really like the 3 Way Tie for Last and have to say that this is a most excellent reworking of Price of Paradise.
	11:15am Ike: Oh, duh, I know what I need to do next Tuesday. It should've been obvious. It'll be a Very Special Episode of the Resistance.
	11:18am steveo: delphine blue played this on an excellent fill-in on boxing day
	11:20am steveo: luvv the fuzz
	11:20am Mr. Palchepo.: I’ve been a carpenter for nearly thirty years and we look down on our clients’ book collections.
	11:22am βrian: Are they collections organized by color scheme? Those are the best!
	11:24am Ike: There have been many excellent fill-ins lately: not just Delphine Blue but a bumper crop of the great J. Herweg. Plus: new DJs Kellen606, SV, and Sinead (the last of whom sounds like a great candidate to take over for Clay Pigeon in 15-25 years or whenever he retires, or fill in for him, or whatever).
	11:25am steveo: cool, I'll put some of those on my phone for when i'm out and about
	11:26am Mr. Palchepo.: Business men and The Art of War and their gold digger wives’ self help books.
	11:26am steveo: all-star set
	11:27am ben abs: @Ike agreed, has been a treat to hear a few different shows, was SV the guy who was playing some good black metal?
	11:29am steveo: 25 years? I'm not sure i could survive getting to jersey city before 6 am for 25 years.
	11:30am Jherweg: I bullied Ike into making that comment because he wouldn't give me his audible password, ha ha.
	11:32am Moonbooger: I've seen Eugene Chadbourne in Chattanooga(Chefs Underground)&Asheville(Vincent's Ear)
	11:33am Jeff Golick: Oooh all-time classick here.
	11:39am ⓘⓚⓔ: @ben abs, oh yeah, that's him! Ironically I'm into much of the black metal, but other than that, that's an excellent show. Although I'll take black metal anytime over that sack of putz-weasels called Don Felder!
	11:40am steveo: jazz chair dancing
	11:49am sphere: ike, i am a black metal fan as well. thank goodness the genre has been moving away from "church burning" to "really annoyed Goth."
	11:50am coolsoule: Wow, serge chaloff - one of the premium bari players - what a pleasant blast from the past. thanks!
	11:52am Jherweg: That Khan Jamal record is so essential, high praise to Eremite records for reissuing it. I wore out two copies on cd.....
	11:53am Ken From Hyde Park: Thanks, Scott. Keep the rally going.
	11:55am Scott McDowell: aww yeah Serge Chaloff fans unite
	11:56am steveo: see you scott; thanks for all the great musics (some on vinyls)
	11:57am ben abs: Ike - gotta say I did like a lot of the BM stuff he played. On .a related note, sad news that Nicolas Cage's son has split up his BM band to concentrate on the new genre he's invented - ghost metal. Thanks for a great show as always Scott.
	11:59am Sem: Thx, Scott! Love the show.
	12:01pm P-90: Thanks for The Long Rally in 2018, Scott. Happy 2019!
	12:02pm Ike: Thanks Scott!

The Long Rally with Scott McDowell: Playlist from January 2, 2019

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