WFMU: If You Lose Your Horse with Sam Segal: Playlist from December 23, 2020

Listener comments!
	🥁 ♥ 10:00pm Gary: Saaam!
	10:02pm TDK60: Hey. That's gotta be L.A. on a smoggy day. 1971? Or Tucson?
	10:02pm Sam Segal: Gary! Sizzla on VP Records. Seems like a Gary kind of track.
	10:03pm Sam Segal: Welcome, TDK! Definitely LA in the early 70s. Could very well be '71.
	10:08pm TDK60: I've already heard enough Santa music to make me wanna smash candy canes on the wall!! (hee)
	10:12pm Gary via app: I missed the Sizzla b/c I had to shut off computer and brush my teeth .. :-( But this is nice!
	♥ 10:12pm Franco Twinkie: That's right TDK! That's the back of a county truck, and to the right is Market Basket, a long gone local supermarket.
	10:12pm northguineahills: "some aural assembly may be required, horse and batteries not included".
	10:13pm Sam Segal: There'll be more Sizzla someday, App Gary! Welcome, NGH and Franco!
	♥ 10:14pm chresti: Hi Sam, I'm trying to figure out where in LA that photo was taken.
	♥ 10:14pm Franco Twinkie: Also, making a left is a General Telephone van.
	♥ 10:14pm coelacanth∅: howdy Sam, bucket brigade and sundry stablemates & unstablemates...
	♥ 10:15pm coelacanth∅: can almost make out that sign on the left, on the 2 palms in the center island
	10:16pm northguineahills: my xmas present to myself was some whiskey (first in 3 months), and a hotel room.
	10:16pm Sam Segal: Chresti and Coel! Great showing from the Cs tonight.
	♥ 10:16pm coelacanth∅: c section represent
	♥ 10:17pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Oh ...the smog made it look like an antique sepia... I lived in Santa Barbara a while but that wasn't the City...
	10:19pm Sam Segal: Rev! Long time no see. Great to have you.
	10:19pm still b/p: C-section babies represent?
	♥ 10:20pm coelacanth∅: hey Franco Thanks for the latest (i presume) news from sonoma and bubonic waffle i love it!
	10:20pm Sam Segal: Whatever connection you have to the letter C, I want you to represent it, SBP.
	10:22pm Dean: I'd argue that the antique sepia makes it look like smog.
	♥ 10:22pm coelacanth∅: hmmm... (@1016) ...whiskey...
	10:23pm TDK60: Well, if it's past noon it's definitely a view south, right? (Morning, opposite.)
	♥ 10:23pm Franco Twinkie: Thanks Coel. My Christmas present to this sad world.
	♥ 10:24pm Aitch: Seeking shelter from Xmas tunes
	♥ 10:24pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Franco impressive you can pick out a 1971 telephone van @ 200 yards or something ! Sam - I have phases my webz access changes ...& frankly I prefer holidayless holiday musics ! So Thank YOU Sir.
	10:24pm TDK60: ..and is that a Shell station up ahead on the left?
	10:25pm northguineahills: Gonna watch Korean horror films and the Expanse through xmas. Then back to the grind Boxing Day. (only 2 more days to get through Whamegeddan. It's easier in the states, then the UK, especiallly when quarantined. I did hear a cover of "Last Xmas", but I was told by Brian in the UK it doesn't count, so, I'm still in!)
	♥ 10:26pm Aitch: I woke this morning feeling a little hoarse
	♥ 10:26pm Franco Twinkie: My first guess is Huntington Drive in El Sereno, angling towards South Pasadena.
	♥ 10:27pm coelacanth∅: s b/p i doubt i was a caesarean birth. that particular scam didn't really take off until a few years after i happened.
	♥ 10:28pm coelacanth∅: i think you're right TDK about the shell sign
	10:29pm Sam Segal: We've got you covered, Aitch! Welcome to the frontlines of the War on Christmas.
	♥ 10:29pm Franco Twinkie: RR63, Not really, it's a two tone Ford Econoline with a ladder rack. That was a distinctive fleet.
	♥ 10:30pm coelacanth∅: Aitch was it a young horse - or a pony? and was right next to your bed... or in it?
	10:30pm TDK60: Don't know the streets Franco, was guessing by the shadows.
	♥ 10:31pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: But a humble Private in the War On Xmas. Yassir.
	♥ 10:31pm coelacanth∅: < that sign (cross street?) looks like it begins with an F or a P
	10:32pm Dean: Really, we should stop declaring war, even rhetorical war. Doing so tends not to work well.
	♥ 10:32pm WR: Wau Wau Collectif isn't released yet. Thanks for the early listen Sam. And hello all y'all
	♥ 10:32pm wilco∅: i'd like to declare a war on war
	10:33pm TDK60: Looked up Huntington Drive in El Sereno, on Gagglemap. It at first is more east-west, in the east, and curves southwest. Does that sound right, Franco?
	♥ 10:33pm Franco Twinkie: Okay, that nails it! The Shell station is still there. It's on Monterrey Road and Huntington Drive.
	♥ 10:34pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Kill Kill Kill For Peace ...Yule just die...
	♥ 10:34pm doctorjazz: Hey all! Back from YouTube work out extravaganza (Yoga with Adrienne, then some aerobics with The Dance Marshall). Now going to sweat and listen.
	10:34pm Sam Segal: My pleasure, WR. Lucky to be on the Sahel Sounds promo list. Howdy, Dean! Just realized I forgot to welcome you earlier.
	10:35pm Sam Segal: Greetings, Doc! My girlfriend speaks highly of Yoga with Adrienne. I need to give it a go one of these days, especially as the winter makes jogging challenging.
	♥ 10:36pm Franco Twinkie: I have a Wilco tee shirt, but none of there record. My mom loves it.
	♥ 10:37pm doctorjazz: She's got a good series, lots of videos. Helping with my back, after a week of doing it consistently.
	♥ 10:37pm Aitch: I must listen to this show more.
	♥ 10:37pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: I am determinedly clicking a Simple Minds. Didn't expect that.
	♥ 10:37pm WR: Sahel Sounds did pay what you like on the Dec. and at least one previous bandcamp day. I've got 25 or so albums I need to spend some time with.
	♥ 10:38pm Franco Twinkie: I just might take a drive tomorrow to check it out. It's not that far from us.
	♥ 10:39pm doctorjazz: Big Wilco fan, seen them many times and meet most of the band (very nice guys). Jeff Tweedy (the leader) doesn't socialize much, though. Nels Cline, on the other hand, very friendly.
	♥ 10:41pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Franco take a photo to match !... I'm like the only Son Volt lover I know - I think Wilco is okay. Wrong horse as usual !...
	10:41pm TDK60: I was looking on gagglemaps Franco, and if so, that makes sense with the shadows, more north-south there hence the afternoon shadow. Eh?
	10:43pm TDK60: Is that Alhambra, or South Pasadena? (Don't know why I got so curious geographically.)
	♥ 10:43pm Franco Twinkie: I will RR. Chresti and I are debating several other possibilities, but that hill...
	♥ 10:44pm doctorjazz: Tweedy and Farrar (who started out together in Uncle Tupelo) apparently don't speak to each other.
	10:45pm Dean: Wow, wow, wow. I'm hearing Sister Keyrouz on WFMU. I'm pretty sure I have all her records.
	♥ 10:45pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Sad.
	♥ 10:46pm Franco Twinkie: TDK, South Pas. The big mound is an extension of Raymond Hill.
	♥ 10:47pm Ike: Greetings, humans!
	10:47pm Sam Segal: Quite a voice, aye, Dean?
	10:47pm Sam Segal: Hello, Human Ike!
	♥ 10:47pm chresti: If only I could make out the signs.. commons.wikimedia.org...
	♥ 10:48pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Not much for anything Xian - but damn - this !
	10:49pm Dean: Voice, devotion, delivery, interpretation...all "quite."
	10:50pm TDK60: Looks like Forbes Ave. or similar.
	♥ 10:50pm Franco Twinkie: I did see Uncle Tupelo, Doc. They were opening for a friend at the Club Lingerie in Hollywood.
	10:50pm TDK60: Fletcher Ave.?
	10:54pm Dean: Earlier today I listened to a collection of recordings by Eliette Schenneberg, a marvelous soprano who worked during the first half of the last century. Still another "quite a voice."
	♥ 10:54pm chresti: That would be Elysian Valley, Frog Town, if it was Fletcher Dr.
	♥ 10:54pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Loves Indian Classical.
	♥ 10:55pm doctorjazz: Have some of UTs music, but never saw them, I'd guess they were a good show.
	♥ 10:56pm doctorjazz: Cool set!
	10:56pm TDK60: I looked up Shells in the area - there's one on Huntington in between Baird and Rose Hill.
	10:57pm Dean: Tweedy? I don't get it. Bland stuff a la Steely Dan.
	♥ 10:57pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Yeah set deffo making connections.
	10:57pm northguineahills: wait, Ike is human? does that mean I'm human as well?
	10:57pm TDK60: It's at 4590 Huntington Dr N Los Angeles, CA 90032
	♥ 10:58pm doctorjazz: (my family is happy go have me out of quarantine, but sad the music is back...)
	♥ 10:59pm StringOFperils: Hi, Sam, enjoying the sounds. :)
	11:00pm Sam Segal: Thanks for being here, String!
	♥ 11:00pm Franco Twinkie: Newland Hardware - 4938 Huntington Drive. Where's my prize?
	♥ 11:01pm Ike: I'm pretty sure my parents are immigrants from some other planet, but they won't admit it. I've often asked them if and when we're going back home.
	♥ 11:01pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...sometimes Classical Indian vocal is not my fave to try & sleep to, say - but this is interesting...
	11:02pm still b/p: Looks like Newland Hardware, which today is at 4938 Huntington Dr, on the right, with Pueblo intersecting from the left. Storefronts don't look the same today on right hand side -- don't know if that's the long shot effect or if neighborhood changes altered the look.
	11:02pm TDK60: Franco, I may be wrong as Huntington Dr. N. is a smaller st. just north of the big boulevard Huntington.
	♥ 11:02pm doctorjazz: @Dean, not a Wilco fanatic, but like a lot of their stuff (and they put on a really good show). They have a following that reminds me a bit of Deadheads; collect set lists, follow them across the country (which I don't quite get either). A good friend of mine is in that group, got me interested (and sometimes gets me tickets).
	♥ 11:02pm WR: Franco, is the hardware store still there?!??!
	♥ 11:04pm Franco Twinkie: Yes, It's a True Value, but it remains Newlands.
	11:05pm TDK60: I was way off. / So this is Pueblo Ave. on the left?
	11:05pm Dean: I get that, doc, but whereas I understood the attraction to the Dead even when I wasn't so much into them (set aside the fact that I attended every one of their shows), there is nothing attractive to me about Wilco. I sense artists who want desperately to have something to say, but who in fact have little to say.
	♥ 11:06pm coelacanth∅: i like son volt; i like wilco a lot more though
	11:07pm TDK60: Hats off to underground rembetiko. / Now, Franco, have you found it already and we're just catching up?
	11:08pm Dean: Source of the photo? Archive? That could help.
	♥ 11:08pm doctorjazz: Love this Liang Ming Yueh!
	11:09pm still b/p: Looks like axe with semi-snaking "Hardware" vertically along the handle is surviving Newlands sign. Retro enough to be cool.
	11:10pm TDK60: So, if you're right still b/p, then this would be a morning shot, right?
	11:11pm Sam Segal: This is the image source: catalog.archives.gov...
	11:11pm still b/p: Sun from southeast.
	♥ 11:11pm Franco Twinkie: I found it TDK. The Market Basket is now where Food 4 Less is. I spun the map. It's right where I said it is. I use to take a friend home from work and we would angle left at the Shell station.
	11:14pm TDK60: I see it Franco! Wow, all you sleuths, we've found the spot. Well, Franco did. With signs. Interesting. Now if it was just a field with no human stuff...
	♥ 11:14pm Franco Twinkie: I have home court advantage TDK.
	11:14pm Dean: Taken Sept. '73.
	11:15pm still b/p: Someone says "hatchet," I say "axe." Let's chop the whole thing off. www.instagram.com...
	11:15pm TDK60: ...probably 10:30 AM in 1971, right?
	♥ 11:16pm Franco Twinkie: Sept '73 - I had just started college.
	11:18pm TDK60: Gosh Franco y Chresti, how about a photograph by the Newlands hardware store, with masks?
	11:19pm still b/p: CGI trivia: 3d modeling programs already had function years ago that let you set location, time and season for natural-daylighting an outdoor scene.
	♥ 11:19pm Franco Twinkie: Yes! I will document the document.
	11:19pm Dean: I, too, started college in Sept. '73.
	11:19pm TDK60: Request Sam. More photos with human stuff. Hee...
	♥ 11:19pm Franco Twinkie: Dean, where?
	♥ 11:20pm coelacanth∅: i want to see a picture from that spot, at that angle- 150 years ago, 300 years ago, 1000 years ago...
	♥ 11:20pm chresti: catalog.archives.gov...
	11:20pm Dean: Nixonland. Whittier College.
	♥ 11:20pm Franco Twinkie: Oh wow!
	11:21pm Dean: Well, yeah, wow. After I graduated I got them to hire Richard Meltzer to deliver a lecture.
	♥ 11:22pm doctorjazz: This Gonzalez and co has an interesting way of being very rhythmic and static at the same time.
	11:22pm Sam Segal: @Dean, ever read Rick Perlstein's book "Nixonland"?
	♥ 11:23pm Franco Twinkie: Right on Dean! At that time Richard was writing for Coast, a great local rag.
	♥ 11:23pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Jazzes sure feel good about now.
	11:24pm TDK60: So, in this photo we're actually looking northeast toward Alhambra, then San Gabriel. Does that sound right, Franco?
	♥ 11:24pm coelacanth∅: did/do i hear a bass clarinet?
	♥ 11:24pm Franco Twinkie: Spot on, TDK.
	11:25pm Dean: Haven't read Perlstein, but I have read Ambrose.
	11:26pm TDK60: Alrightee then. Another eggnog, geographers!
	11:26pm Dean: Richard had his KPFK show at the time.
	♥ 11:27pm Franco Twinkie: A Christmas cookie and a hot shower for me!
	♥ 11:27pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Must give eyes a break. TY DJ SS Sir. May we all find refuge - City of Angels or otherwise.
	♥ 11:28pm doctorjazz: Had to Google the Endangered Quartet-spin off of the Jazz Passengers, a group I love and saw many times (Roy Nathan's on and Curtis Fowlkes)
	11:28pm Sam Segal: Thanks for being here, Rev!
	♥ 11:29pm doctorjazz: Night RRN63!
	♥ 11:32pm Franco Twinkie: About that time, Richard worked at a book store I would go into occasionally. He was always reading and would look up at me disdainfully, then go back to his book.
	♥ 11:33pm WR: I was sure I heard some klezmer like clarinet on the Endangered Quartet tune but credits don't say anyone playing clarinet.
	11:38pm TDK60: Is chresti still here? See the current title? "paysage" = landscape in French. (similar to 'pays' in the prior show)
	11:39pm Dean: Which book store?
	11:41pm TDK60: This is an eerie one Sam. Ielasi.
	♥ 11:43pm doctorjazz: WR, I checked notes on the Endangered Quartet track, Roy Nathan's is on soprano sax, which can be clarinet like.
	11:44pm Sam Segal: I think the eeriness will likely continue with this extended piece from Okkyung Lee.
	11:44pm Dean: One of these days I might read Nixon's own work, or even Kissinger's. I stress, might.
	♥ 11:46pm chresti: I see that, TDK60.
	11:47pm Dean: Not long after Meltzer retreated to Portland, my wife and I were up there and we took him to dinner at what was then his favorite spot, Higgin's. At the time it was a great restaurant, but I have no idea how it has fared since, though we did go again once or twice shortly thereafter.
	♥ 11:47pm WR: Makes sense doc. Okkyung Lee making sounds with her violincello. Love it.
	♥ 11:48pm doctorjazz: Intense, man!
	♥ 11:50pm chresti: I had to look away for a minute, my eyes were about to fall out of my head from staring at fuzzy street signs.
	11:52pm TDK60: Well, good night Sam. Thanks for lettin' us exercise our geographic faculties in a music show. Yeh chresti y Franco y styill b/p: worn out actually. All that smog hurt the eyes. Till again...
	11:53pm Sam Segal: Consider this the faculty gym! Thanks for being here, TDK!
	♥ 11:54pm doctorjazz: This must be the end, thanks, Sam, night all! (Maybe put on a bit of Roland Kirk, then off to bed).
	♥ 11:54pm chresti: Good night TDK60 \\ //...
	11:54pm Sam Segal: Sleep well, Doc! Enjoy the Rahsaan.
	♥ 11:58pm chresti: Night doc!
	11:59pm still b/p: Fuzzy Street Signs was the name of my first band or the first thoroughbred racehorse I trained. Can't remember.
	♥ 12:00am StringOFperils: Thanks.. Have a good night.!
	12:00am Sam Segal: You too, String!
	♥ 12:02am chresti: Thanks Sam, I had a nice time, good night!
	♥ 12:02am coelacanth∅: Excellent Sam! Thanks 'night y'all
	♥ 12:03am WR: Thank you Sam. Take care all. Be strong be opinionated be compassionate. Laters.
	♥ 12:04am Franco Twinkie: Thanks Sam. Merry whatever to you.

If You Lose Your Horse with Sam Segal: Playlist from December 23, 2020

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December 23, 2020: When He's Drunk Enough, the Horse Goes Into Town with a Bucket of Mud and a Shotgun

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Approx. start time
Sizzla	Just One of Those Days "Just One of Those Days" by "Sizzla"	Da Real Thing	VP
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Phantom Horse	Constellations of Mabu	Mehr Null	Umor Rex	0:08:09 (Pop-up)
CS + Kreme	The Whale's Tail "The Whale's Tail" by "CS + Kreme"	Snoopy	The Trilogy Taoes	0:15:27 (Pop-up)
Shohei Amimori	Stab/Text "Stab/Text" by "Shohei Amimori"	Sonasile	Progressive Form	0:21:38 (Pop-up)
Wau Wau Collectif	Yaral Sa Doom II	Yaral Sa Doom	Sahel Sounds	0:26:00 (Pop-up)
The Magnetic Fields	Love is Lighter Than Air	Get Lost	Merge	0:29:38 (Pop-up)
Simple Minds	Shake Off the Ghosts	Sparkle in the Rain	Virgin	0:32:30 (Pop-up)

Sister Marie Keyrouz	Antiphon of the Good Friday Mass	The Passion and the Resurrection of Christ	Harmonia Mundi	0:42:50 (Pop-up)
T.N. Krishnan & Kumari Viji Krishnan	Aajori Badhavra - Adana	Classical Instrumental Violin	Inreco	0:47:55 (Pop-up)
Marcel Cellier	Pastoral Symphony "Pastoral Symphony" by "Marcel Cellier"	L'Albanie Folklorique	Disques Cellier	0:54:34 (Pop-up)
Nazakat & Salamat Ali Khan	Ajori Badhawara (Adana)	7"	His Master's Voice	0:59:33 (Pop-up)
Marika Politissa	Rast Zergile Manes	Rembetika: Greek Music from the Underground	JSP	1:03:15 (Pop-up)
Liang Ming Yueh	Chiu-K'uang (Wine Madness)	Musik in Asien II – Südost- & Ostasien	Musicaphon	1:06:16 (Pop-up)
Jaymanur Ajabek	Komonotor Hana "Komonotor Hana" by "Jaymanur Ajabek"	Ethnic Minority Music Of Northwest Xinjiang, China	Sublime Frequencies	1:08:26 (Pop-up)

Music behind DJ: Dennis González & Faruq Z Bey w/ Northwoods Improvisers Septet	Namesake	Hymn for Tomasz Stańko	Qbico	1:18:55 (Pop-up)
Endangered Quartet	Edges "Edges" by "Endangered Quartet"	Heart	New Focus	1:23:54 (Pop-up)
David Lord	Epiphyte "Epiphyte" by "David Lord"	Forest Standards, Vol. 2	Self-Released	1:27:24 (Pop-up)
Lester St. Louis	Ultra, Seeping, Malted	NYC LIMINAL SERIES, vol. 2	Chaikin	1:29:13 (Pop-up)
Jürg Frey	Petit fragment de paysage (version one)	Grizzana And Other Pieces 2009-2014	Another Timbre	1:33:56 (Pop-up)
Giuseppe Ielasi	02 "02" by "Giuseppe Ielasi"	Five Wooden Frames	12k	1:38:23 (Pop-up)
Okkyung Lee	Teum (the Silvery Slit)	Teum (the Silvery Slit)	Portraits GRM	1:41:16 (Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	🥁 ♥ 10:00pm Gary: Saaam!
	10:02pm TDK60: Hey. That's gotta be L.A. on a smoggy day. 1971? Or Tucson?
	10:02pm Sam Segal: Gary! Sizzla on VP Records. Seems like a Gary kind of track.
	10:03pm Sam Segal: Welcome, TDK! Definitely LA in the early 70s. Could very well be '71.
	10:08pm TDK60: I've already heard enough Santa music to make me wanna smash candy canes on the wall!! (hee)
	10:12pm Gary via app: I missed the Sizzla b/c I had to shut off computer and brush my teeth .. :-( But this is nice!
	♥ 10:12pm Franco Twinkie: That's right TDK! That's the back of a county truck, and to the right is Market Basket, a long gone local supermarket.
	10:12pm northguineahills: "some aural assembly may be required, horse and batteries not included".
	10:13pm Sam Segal: There'll be more Sizzla someday, App Gary! Welcome, NGH and Franco!
	♥ 10:14pm chresti: Hi Sam, I'm trying to figure out where in LA that photo was taken.
	♥ 10:14pm Franco Twinkie: Also, making a left is a General Telephone van.
	♥ 10:14pm coelacanth∅: howdy Sam, bucket brigade and sundry stablemates & unstablemates...
	♥ 10:15pm coelacanth∅: can almost make out that sign on the left, on the 2 palms in the center island
	10:16pm northguineahills: my xmas present to myself was some whiskey (first in 3 months), and a hotel room.
	10:16pm Sam Segal: Chresti and Coel! Great showing from the Cs tonight.
	♥ 10:16pm coelacanth∅: c section represent
	♥ 10:17pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Oh ...the smog made it look like an antique sepia... I lived in Santa Barbara a while but that wasn't the City...
	10:19pm Sam Segal: Rev! Long time no see. Great to have you.
	10:19pm still b/p: C-section babies represent?
	♥ 10:20pm coelacanth∅: hey Franco Thanks for the latest (i presume) news from sonoma and bubonic waffle i love it!
	10:20pm Sam Segal: Whatever connection you have to the letter C, I want you to represent it, SBP.
	10:22pm Dean: I'd argue that the antique sepia makes it look like smog.
	♥ 10:22pm coelacanth∅: hmmm... (@1016) ...whiskey...
	10:23pm TDK60: Well, if it's past noon it's definitely a view south, right? (Morning, opposite.)
	♥ 10:23pm Franco Twinkie: Thanks Coel. My Christmas present to this sad world.
	♥ 10:24pm Aitch: Seeking shelter from Xmas tunes
	♥ 10:24pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Franco impressive you can pick out a 1971 telephone van @ 200 yards or something ! Sam - I have phases my webz access changes ...& frankly I prefer holidayless holiday musics ! So Thank YOU Sir.
	10:24pm TDK60: ..and is that a Shell station up ahead on the left?
	10:25pm northguineahills: Gonna watch Korean horror films and the Expanse through xmas. Then back to the grind Boxing Day. (only 2 more days to get through Whamegeddan. It's easier in the states, then the UK, especiallly when quarantined. I did hear a cover of "Last Xmas", but I was told by Brian in the UK it doesn't count, so, I'm still in!)
	♥ 10:26pm Aitch: I woke this morning feeling a little hoarse
	♥ 10:26pm Franco Twinkie: My first guess is Huntington Drive in El Sereno, angling towards South Pasadena.
	♥ 10:27pm coelacanth∅: s b/p i doubt i was a caesarean birth. that particular scam didn't really take off until a few years after i happened.
	♥ 10:28pm coelacanth∅: i think you're right TDK about the shell sign
	10:29pm Sam Segal: We've got you covered, Aitch! Welcome to the frontlines of the War on Christmas.
	♥ 10:29pm Franco Twinkie: RR63, Not really, it's a two tone Ford Econoline with a ladder rack. That was a distinctive fleet.
	♥ 10:30pm coelacanth∅: Aitch was it a young horse - or a pony? and was right next to your bed... or in it?
	10:30pm TDK60: Don't know the streets Franco, was guessing by the shadows.
	♥ 10:31pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: But a humble Private in the War On Xmas. Yassir.
	♥ 10:31pm coelacanth∅: < that sign (cross street?) looks like it begins with an F or a P
	10:32pm Dean: Really, we should stop declaring war, even rhetorical war. Doing so tends not to work well.
	♥ 10:32pm WR: Wau Wau Collectif isn't released yet. Thanks for the early listen Sam. And hello all y'all
	♥ 10:32pm wilco∅: i'd like to declare a war on war
	10:33pm TDK60: Looked up Huntington Drive in El Sereno, on Gagglemap. It at first is more east-west, in the east, and curves southwest. Does that sound right, Franco?
	♥ 10:33pm Franco Twinkie: Okay, that nails it! The Shell station is still there. It's on Monterrey Road and Huntington Drive.
	♥ 10:34pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Kill Kill Kill For Peace ...Yule just die...
	♥ 10:34pm doctorjazz: Hey all! Back from YouTube work out extravaganza (Yoga with Adrienne, then some aerobics with The Dance Marshall). Now going to sweat and listen.
	10:34pm Sam Segal: My pleasure, WR. Lucky to be on the Sahel Sounds promo list. Howdy, Dean! Just realized I forgot to welcome you earlier.
	10:35pm Sam Segal: Greetings, Doc! My girlfriend speaks highly of Yoga with Adrienne. I need to give it a go one of these days, especially as the winter makes jogging challenging.
	♥ 10:36pm Franco Twinkie: I have a Wilco tee shirt, but none of there record. My mom loves it.
	♥ 10:37pm doctorjazz: She's got a good series, lots of videos. Helping with my back, after a week of doing it consistently.
	♥ 10:37pm Aitch: I must listen to this show more.
	♥ 10:37pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: I am determinedly clicking a Simple Minds. Didn't expect that.
	♥ 10:37pm WR: Sahel Sounds did pay what you like on the Dec. and at least one previous bandcamp day. I've got 25 or so albums I need to spend some time with.
	♥ 10:38pm Franco Twinkie: I just might take a drive tomorrow to check it out. It's not that far from us.
	♥ 10:39pm doctorjazz: Big Wilco fan, seen them many times and meet most of the band (very nice guys). Jeff Tweedy (the leader) doesn't socialize much, though. Nels Cline, on the other hand, very friendly.
	♥ 10:41pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Franco take a photo to match !... I'm like the only Son Volt lover I know - I think Wilco is okay. Wrong horse as usual !...
	10:41pm TDK60: I was looking on gagglemaps Franco, and if so, that makes sense with the shadows, more north-south there hence the afternoon shadow. Eh?
	10:43pm TDK60: Is that Alhambra, or South Pasadena? (Don't know why I got so curious geographically.)
	♥ 10:43pm Franco Twinkie: I will RR. Chresti and I are debating several other possibilities, but that hill...
	♥ 10:44pm doctorjazz: Tweedy and Farrar (who started out together in Uncle Tupelo) apparently don't speak to each other.
	10:45pm Dean: Wow, wow, wow. I'm hearing Sister Keyrouz on WFMU. I'm pretty sure I have all her records.
	♥ 10:45pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Sad.
	♥ 10:46pm Franco Twinkie: TDK, South Pas. The big mound is an extension of Raymond Hill.
	♥ 10:47pm Ike: Greetings, humans!
	10:47pm Sam Segal: Quite a voice, aye, Dean?
	10:47pm Sam Segal: Hello, Human Ike!
	♥ 10:47pm chresti: If only I could make out the signs.. commons.wikimedia.org...
	♥ 10:48pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Not much for anything Xian - but damn - this !
	10:49pm Dean: Voice, devotion, delivery, interpretation...all "quite."
	10:50pm TDK60: Looks like Forbes Ave. or similar.
	♥ 10:50pm Franco Twinkie: I did see Uncle Tupelo, Doc. They were opening for a friend at the Club Lingerie in Hollywood.
	10:50pm TDK60: Fletcher Ave.?
	10:54pm Dean: Earlier today I listened to a collection of recordings by Eliette Schenneberg, a marvelous soprano who worked during the first half of the last century. Still another "quite a voice."
	♥ 10:54pm chresti: That would be Elysian Valley, Frog Town, if it was Fletcher Dr.
	♥ 10:54pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Loves Indian Classical.
	♥ 10:55pm doctorjazz: Have some of UTs music, but never saw them, I'd guess they were a good show.
	♥ 10:56pm doctorjazz: Cool set!
	10:56pm TDK60: I looked up Shells in the area - there's one on Huntington in between Baird and Rose Hill.
	10:57pm Dean: Tweedy? I don't get it. Bland stuff a la Steely Dan.
	♥ 10:57pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Yeah set deffo making connections.
	10:57pm northguineahills: wait, Ike is human? does that mean I'm human as well?
	10:57pm TDK60: It's at 4590 Huntington Dr N Los Angeles, CA 90032
	♥ 10:58pm doctorjazz: (my family is happy go have me out of quarantine, but sad the music is back...)
	♥ 10:59pm StringOFperils: Hi, Sam, enjoying the sounds. :)
	11:00pm Sam Segal: Thanks for being here, String!
	♥ 11:00pm Franco Twinkie: Newland Hardware - 4938 Huntington Drive. Where's my prize?
	♥ 11:01pm Ike: I'm pretty sure my parents are immigrants from some other planet, but they won't admit it. I've often asked them if and when we're going back home.
	♥ 11:01pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: ...sometimes Classical Indian vocal is not my fave to try & sleep to, say - but this is interesting...
	11:02pm still b/p: Looks like Newland Hardware, which today is at 4938 Huntington Dr, on the right, with Pueblo intersecting from the left. Storefronts don't look the same today on right hand side -- don't know if that's the long shot effect or if neighborhood changes altered the look.
	11:02pm TDK60: Franco, I may be wrong as Huntington Dr. N. is a smaller st. just north of the big boulevard Huntington.
	♥ 11:02pm doctorjazz: @Dean, not a Wilco fanatic, but like a lot of their stuff (and they put on a really good show). They have a following that reminds me a bit of Deadheads; collect set lists, follow them across the country (which I don't quite get either). A good friend of mine is in that group, got me interested (and sometimes gets me tickets).
	♥ 11:02pm WR: Franco, is the hardware store still there?!??!
	♥ 11:04pm Franco Twinkie: Yes, It's a True Value, but it remains Newlands.
	11:05pm TDK60: I was way off. / So this is Pueblo Ave. on the left?
	11:05pm Dean: I get that, doc, but whereas I understood the attraction to the Dead even when I wasn't so much into them (set aside the fact that I attended every one of their shows), there is nothing attractive to me about Wilco. I sense artists who want desperately to have something to say, but who in fact have little to say.
	♥ 11:06pm coelacanth∅: i like son volt; i like wilco a lot more though
	11:07pm TDK60: Hats off to underground rembetiko. / Now, Franco, have you found it already and we're just catching up?
	11:08pm Dean: Source of the photo? Archive? That could help.
	♥ 11:08pm doctorjazz: Love this Liang Ming Yueh!
	11:09pm still b/p: Looks like axe with semi-snaking "Hardware" vertically along the handle is surviving Newlands sign. Retro enough to be cool.
	11:10pm TDK60: So, if you're right still b/p, then this would be a morning shot, right?
	11:11pm Sam Segal: This is the image source: catalog.archives.gov...
	11:11pm still b/p: Sun from southeast.
	♥ 11:11pm Franco Twinkie: I found it TDK. The Market Basket is now where Food 4 Less is. I spun the map. It's right where I said it is. I use to take a friend home from work and we would angle left at the Shell station.
	11:14pm TDK60: I see it Franco! Wow, all you sleuths, we've found the spot. Well, Franco did. With signs. Interesting. Now if it was just a field with no human stuff...
	♥ 11:14pm Franco Twinkie: I have home court advantage TDK.
	11:14pm Dean: Taken Sept. '73.
	11:15pm still b/p: Someone says "hatchet," I say "axe." Let's chop the whole thing off. www.instagram.com...
	11:15pm TDK60: ...probably 10:30 AM in 1971, right?
	♥ 11:16pm Franco Twinkie: Sept '73 - I had just started college.
	11:18pm TDK60: Gosh Franco y Chresti, how about a photograph by the Newlands hardware store, with masks?
	11:19pm still b/p: CGI trivia: 3d modeling programs already had function years ago that let you set location, time and season for natural-daylighting an outdoor scene.
	♥ 11:19pm Franco Twinkie: Yes! I will document the document.
	11:19pm Dean: I, too, started college in Sept. '73.
	11:19pm TDK60: Request Sam. More photos with human stuff. Hee...
	♥ 11:19pm Franco Twinkie: Dean, where?
	♥ 11:20pm coelacanth∅: i want to see a picture from that spot, at that angle- 150 years ago, 300 years ago, 1000 years ago...
	♥ 11:20pm chresti: catalog.archives.gov...
	11:20pm Dean: Nixonland. Whittier College.
	♥ 11:20pm Franco Twinkie: Oh wow!
	11:21pm Dean: Well, yeah, wow. After I graduated I got them to hire Richard Meltzer to deliver a lecture.
	♥ 11:22pm doctorjazz: This Gonzalez and co has an interesting way of being very rhythmic and static at the same time.
	11:22pm Sam Segal: @Dean, ever read Rick Perlstein's book "Nixonland"?
	♥ 11:23pm Franco Twinkie: Right on Dean! At that time Richard was writing for Coast, a great local rag.
	♥ 11:23pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Jazzes sure feel good about now.
	11:24pm TDK60: So, in this photo we're actually looking northeast toward Alhambra, then San Gabriel. Does that sound right, Franco?
	♥ 11:24pm coelacanth∅: did/do i hear a bass clarinet?
	♥ 11:24pm Franco Twinkie: Spot on, TDK.
	11:25pm Dean: Haven't read Perlstein, but I have read Ambrose.
	11:26pm TDK60: Alrightee then. Another eggnog, geographers!
	11:26pm Dean: Richard had his KPFK show at the time.
	♥ 11:27pm Franco Twinkie: A Christmas cookie and a hot shower for me!
	♥ 11:27pm Revolution Rabbit Nov63: Must give eyes a break. TY DJ SS Sir. May we all find refuge - City of Angels or otherwise.
	♥ 11:28pm doctorjazz: Had to Google the Endangered Quartet-spin off of the Jazz Passengers, a group I love and saw many times (Roy Nathan's on and Curtis Fowlkes)
	11:28pm Sam Segal: Thanks for being here, Rev!
	♥ 11:29pm doctorjazz: Night RRN63!
	♥ 11:32pm Franco Twinkie: About that time, Richard worked at a book store I would go into occasionally. He was always reading and would look up at me disdainfully, then go back to his book.
	♥ 11:33pm WR: I was sure I heard some klezmer like clarinet on the Endangered Quartet tune but credits don't say anyone playing clarinet.
	11:38pm TDK60: Is chresti still here? See the current title? "paysage" = landscape in French. (similar to 'pays' in the prior show)
	11:39pm Dean: Which book store?
	11:41pm TDK60: This is an eerie one Sam. Ielasi.
	♥ 11:43pm doctorjazz: WR, I checked notes on the Endangered Quartet track, Roy Nathan's is on soprano sax, which can be clarinet like.
	11:44pm Sam Segal: I think the eeriness will likely continue with this extended piece from Okkyung Lee.
	11:44pm Dean: One of these days I might read Nixon's own work, or even Kissinger's. I stress, might.
	♥ 11:46pm chresti: I see that, TDK60.
	11:47pm Dean: Not long after Meltzer retreated to Portland, my wife and I were up there and we took him to dinner at what was then his favorite spot, Higgin's. At the time it was a great restaurant, but I have no idea how it has fared since, though we did go again once or twice shortly thereafter.
	♥ 11:47pm WR: Makes sense doc. Okkyung Lee making sounds with her violincello. Love it.
	♥ 11:48pm doctorjazz: Intense, man!
	♥ 11:50pm chresti: I had to look away for a minute, my eyes were about to fall out of my head from staring at fuzzy street signs.
	11:52pm TDK60: Well, good night Sam. Thanks for lettin' us exercise our geographic faculties in a music show. Yeh chresti y Franco y styill b/p: worn out actually. All that smog hurt the eyes. Till again...
	11:53pm Sam Segal: Consider this the faculty gym! Thanks for being here, TDK!
	♥ 11:54pm doctorjazz: This must be the end, thanks, Sam, night all! (Maybe put on a bit of Roland Kirk, then off to bed).
	♥ 11:54pm chresti: Good night TDK60 \\ //...
	11:54pm Sam Segal: Sleep well, Doc! Enjoy the Rahsaan.
	♥ 11:58pm chresti: Night doc!
	11:59pm still b/p: Fuzzy Street Signs was the name of my first band or the first thoroughbred racehorse I trained. Can't remember.
	♥ 12:00am StringOFperils: Thanks.. Have a good night.!
	12:00am Sam Segal: You too, String!
	♥ 12:02am chresti: Thanks Sam, I had a nice time, good night!
	♥ 12:02am coelacanth∅: Excellent Sam! Thanks 'night y'all
	♥ 12:03am WR: Thank you Sam. Take care all. Be strong be opinionated be compassionate. Laters.
	♥ 12:04am Franco Twinkie: Thanks Sam. Merry whatever to you.

If You Lose Your Horse with Sam Segal: Playlist from December 23, 2020

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