WFMU: Krys O's Free-Form Roller Coaster: Playlist from January 18, 2025

Listener comments!
	12:56pm Krys O.: Greetings, everyone!
	1:01pm DJ Babs: Hello Hello!!!
	1:02pm Mr Fab: Hey Krys! And much thx for the soothing grooves, Babs.
	1:02pm Krys O.: Hi, Babs!
	👻 1:03pm WR: Hi Krys and folks. Was slow getting up this morning. Was up to nearly 5AM dithering over my Discogs cart.
	1:03pm Krys O.: Hello, Mr. Fab! WR!
	1:05pm Derek Westerholm: Happy Birthday Terry Burrows!
	1:05pm Webhamster Henry: Hiya Krys!
	👻 1:06pm yerfriendpaul: Hi Krys, everyone!
	1:06pm Rich in Washington: Mornin' Krys O!
	1:07pm Derek Westerholm: Hello Krys & chatroom frenz!
	1:07pm Krys O.: Hey, Derek! Henry! Paul! Rich!
	1:09pm DJ Babs: Oh this is so good Krys!
	👻 1:09pm WR: Enthused about your celebrating of Burrows. I learned of him via 'FMU a year or two ago (probably via your program) but I've still not familiar with much of his work.
	1:10pm Mr Fab: Check out WFMU's 1991 schedule. (Esp. Mondays @midnight): ibb.co...
	1:10pm Krys O.: ↳ WR @1:09 Thanks, WR! Terry has a vast catalog of work.
	1:11pm Krys O.: ↳ Mr Fab @1:10 HA! I don't remember ever seeing that. Somebody help me.
	1:12pm Mr Fab: ↳ Krys O. @1:11 Well, in 1991, you would have only been 6 years old.
	1:12pm Krys O.: ↳ Song: "A Watch for Other Things Than This" by "Family Yung" Family Yung is a collaboration between Terry and his son Louis.
	1:13pm Krys O.: ↳ Mr Fab @1:12 LOL!!!Several lifetimes ago.
	👻 1:14pm yerfriendpaul: ↳ Song: "Another Bore of Babylon" by "Jung Analysts" Loving this!!
	1:15pm Krys O.: ↳ yerfriendpaul @1:14 Yes!
	1:18pm Erik abodes VT: Hello👋 everybody. @Krys (& all), mostly familiar with The Chrysanthemums material (great catalog there), yet am curious; did Terry Burrows also get involved with fellow like minded band “Deep Freeze Mice”? (as always, love your eclectic show!).
	👻 1:20pm WR: ↳ Song: "A Rose for Emily" by "The Chrysanthemums" they did the whole Zombies album? Like what I'm hearing, how they have subtly recast it.
	1:20pm Krys O.: ↳ Erik abodes VT @1:18 Howdy, Erik! Alan Jenkins of Deep Freeze Mice and Terry formed the Chrysanthemums. The exact origin story timeline eludes me at the moment.
	👻 1:22pm fred: Hello Krys and all
	1:22pm Krys O.: ↳ Erik abodes VT @1:18 I recently featured selections from the Obscure Independent Classics series that Alan Jenkins released on his label Cordelia. Terry put one volume out on his Hamster label.
	1:22pm Krys O.: Hello, fred! Nice to see you.
	1:23pm Krys O.: ↳ WR @1:20 Indeed! It was an incredible venture and a joy to listen to.
	👻 1:24pm fred: @Krys: There's a "slack" slot on Sundays on that 1991 sched, was that also you?
	1:26pm Krys O.: ↳ fred @1:24 Heavens, no. I did do five shows in one week back in the 80s. I had two regular shows each week, then I did three fill-ins.
	1:27pm Mr Fab: Amazing how many DJs on that schedule are still with WFMU.
	1:28pm Krys O.: ↳ fred @1:24 TKF, Terry Folger took up airing the Media Barrage cassettes around that time.
	1:28pm Krys O.: ↳ Mr Fab @1:27 Absolutely! Also seeing several folks who are no longer with us.
	👻 1:29pm fred: ↳ Mr Fab @1:27 Also some sorely missed names there
	1:29pm Rich in Washington: Wow. Jung Analysts is totally new to me.
	👻 1:31pm fred: Also funny that Irwin was already "ol' pal" 34 years ago
	1:32pm Krys O.: ↳ Rich in Washington @1:29 And this is 40 years old. He still makes music. Well worth checking out.
	1:36pm Erik abodes VT: ↳ Krys O. @1:28 alluding to that motif of R.I.P🪦: I sent this thanks to you earlier via another show (& thanks to WR, for the heads-up on your Mick Hobbs tribute - which I had randomly missed) = “@KrysO: thank you for your mini-tribute ode to the exceptional talents of Mick Hobbs! Was saddened by learning of his passing to another plane of existence. Sigh😔. Collected as much of his early-mid career as I could find. Happily the prolific Mr Hobbs has left us quite a cornucopia of musical delights - was creative right up to his finale.”
	1:39pm Krys O.: ↳ Erik abodes VT @1:36 Thank you for your kind words.
	👻 1:43pm fred: I do remember Rix fondly. His show was overnight for you, morning for me at some point
	1:45pm Erik abodes VT: … random query re 1980s/90s era DJs: I recall appreciating the innovative & distinct broadcasts of “Bronwyn C” - is she still to be found creating sounds anywhere?
	1:45pm Krys O.: ↳ fred @1:43 He was a pal. He had a show when I was a student in the early 80s. Always fun to chat with him. I loved his shows too.
	1:46pm Krys O.: ↳ Erik abodes VT @1:45 The last I recall of her on WFMU was Sportsy Talk with Jim the Poet. I think she's still an editor.
	1:47pm newton: I used to listen to wreck this mess back then, only I never saw it written so I thought it was rec this mess so I recorded it. Still have some, especially a christmas one I play every year
	1:50pm Krys O.: ↳ newton @1:47 Hi, newton! Bart still puts up shows on Mixcloud, IIRC.
	1:52pm Krys O.: By the way, those guys are still revving away in the garage behind the house. :D
	1:52pm Erik abodes VT: ↳ Krys O. @1:46 Ok✅, “Sportsy Talk” is news to me. Vaguely recall Jim referring to it via his shows. I went on a WFMU semi-blackout from approximately 1995-2021. Anybody have pointers to “BronwynC” related archives via show titles & or monikers.
	1:52pm newton: Hi Krys! glad I dropped in!
	👻 1:52pm fred: ↳ Krys O. @1:45 I also vividly remember that fateful night when Wm. Berger didn't show up. Was it Mary Wing who had to stay on the air? That sinking feeling when I figured it was something serious...
	1:53pm newton: Jung Analyst was great
	1:54pm Krys O.: ↳ fred @1:52 That's correct. I was chatting about Wm with a friend just last night.
	1:56pm Dan S: ↳ Erik abodes VT @1:52 Here's a link to her archive page: wfmu.org...
	👻 1:56pm fred: ↳ Erik abodes VT @1:52 Look here: wfmu.org... It's not consistent though, sometimes a new name is listed separately, sometimes it just replaces the old one
	1:56pm Krys O.: ↳ Dan S @1:56 Hi, Dan! Thanks!
	👻 2:07pm fred: ↳ Song: "The Computer Revolution: Are Women Being Left Beh... Sadly still relevant, despite the fact that computer operation was for a while demeaned as a female occupation, and the first coder was a woman (and even had a language named after her)
	2:07pm Dan S: ↳ Song: "The Computer Revolution: Are Women Being Left Beh... Yeah, computers are just a phase people are going through. Sounds hilarious today. When it comes to technology, almost any 40-year-old discussion/prediction will be amusing.
	2:09pm Krys O.: Judith is describing the internalized patriarchy.
	👻 2:11pm spodiodi: greetings, Krys O. and all!
	2:12pm Krys O.: My brother had computer science class in high school in the early 1970s. There were very few students in the class, but there were young girls in the class. The professor was a woman. I'm 7 years younger than my brother, and he would tell me about computers back then. I found it fascinating.
	2:12pm Krys O.: Hi, spodiodi!
	2:14pm newton: boys should shoot each other
	👻 2:16pm fred: I've often mentored women at work, now there are parity initiatives, from which I'm banned. The head of that is a man, of course
	👻 2:16pm spodiodi: how profound
	2:18pm Roberto: ↳ Song: "The Computer Revolution: Are Women Being Left Beh... gurlz don't know syense
	👻 2:19pm spodiodi: hahaha Americans w cars
	2:19pm Krys O.: ↳ Roberto @2:18 Hi, Roberto!
	2:19pm Krys O.: A wee TV!
	2:20pm Roberto: ↳ Krys O. @2:19 Yo!
	2:21pm Roberto: ↳ Krys O. @2:19 These people talk funny hehe
	👻 2:22pm fred: Graduate students just use frameworks and ChatGPT or Copilot these days. Women tend to try to understand and master tech, guys just want to hang out and let the bots take over
	2:23pm Krys O.: ↳ fred @2:22 Interesting....
	2:24pm newton: the computers then didnt have an internet, or hard drives of more than a few MB. they played pong
	2:26pm Krys O.: ↳ newton @2:24 I remember Pong from the 70s. In my brother's high school class, the computer was connected to the SUNY system. The students could send messages to other computers.
	👻 2:27pm fred: ↳ Krys O. @2:23 Women often had to fight to get taken seriously, I think that's why they try harder (well, those who make it that far). Guys just fall up
	2:29pm Ken From Hyde Park: Hello, Krys O. and ticket holders! 🎟️
	2:29pm Krys O.: ↳ fred @2:27 In my days in high school, the computer class (singular) was hard to get into. They favored those who took AP (Advanced Placement college level) math classes.
	2:29pm Krys O.: Hi, Ken!
	2:30pm Krys O.: ↳ fred @2:27 Exactly.
	2:30pm newton: I dont remember being ablr to send messages to other in the 80s, but the word processing was a great advance really. I wouldn't type my papers because I was so bad at tyrping and word processing changed all that. We also used the computer to write edit and lay out the student newspaper
	2:32pm Roberto: ↳ Song: "The Computer Revolution: Are Women Being Left Beh... Killer theme music!
	2:32pm Krys O.: ↳ newton @2:30 I think they used telephone modems to connect to the ARPANET via the State University of New York system directly.
	2:33pm Krys O.: ↳ newton @2:30 Word processing, yup. I took typing lessons on a computer in the early 80s on a program that my brother wrote.
	👻 2:34pm fred: I think I might just suck at communicating with guys, though. One of my usual tips is "the fastest algorithm is the one you don't use". Most women get it, few men do
	2:34pm newton: I learned to use the computer from women
	2:35pm Krys O.: ↳ fred @2:34 Ha!
	👻 2:36pm yerfriendpaul: ↳ Song: "Charlie Brown" by "The Coasters" Love this song! My Dad used to play this tune back in his wedding band days. For my folk’s 50th anniversary, my brothers and I played a few cover tunes at the party and this was one of them
	2:36pm Krys O.: ↳ yerfriendpaul @2:36 It's a masterpiece!
	👻 2:37pm yerfriendpaul: We didn’t have a sax player, so I played kazoo ha ha
	2:38pm Krys O.: ↳ yerfriendpaul @2:36 I sang that sax break last night while I was washing dishes. It blew my mind how brilliant it was.
	👻 2:38pm yerfriendpaul: ↳ Krys O. @2:38 Fantastic! It is great, you’re right!
	👻 2:39pm fred: ↳ Krys O. @2:35 I wonder whether that might be related to how girls are told to tidy up while boys are expected to be messy. Later when I tell people to eliminate what's not necessary to make reasoning and fixing easier, let's say some are better at it than others
	2:40pm Krys O.: ↳ yerfriendpaul @2:38 I've heard the oldies and classics so many times since I was a kid that I can sing them back. I can't read music, but I've got a good ear.
	👻 2:42pm yerfriendpaul: ↳ Krys O. @2:40 A good ear is the key!
	2:42pm Krys O.: ↳ fred @2:39 It's a definite reinforcement of the traditional roles of patriarchal society.
	2:42pm Mr Fab: Regarding that 1991 schedule, I want to hear “wildgirl.“
	2:43pm newton: ↳ Mr Fab @2:42 Monster Trucks!
	2:43pm Krys O.: ↳ Mr Fab @2:42 Her show was legendary! Ericka is legendary! And she's a sweetheart. She gave me some great advice on acclimating a new kitty to the household years ago.
	2:44pm Krys O.: ↳ Mr Fab @2:42 Wildgirl's Go-Go-Rama was thee event back then.
	2:46pm Erik abodes VT: Re Terry Burrows / Yukio Yung: via Discogs, informed that he put out a fun Jeff Lynne EP (1994) of 5 cover songs - including Xanadu!😃.
	2:48pm Krys O.: ↳ Erik abodes VT @2:46 It's a bottomless catalog of work.
	👻 2:48pm fred: ↳ Krys O. @2:42 On the other hand, my "teaching" style is to point out something that is wrong, explain why it it wrong, but not tell what is right. Guys get angry, women either look for someone else to do it for them (good riddance) or enjoy the challenge. The latter end up teaching me more than I teach them
	2:50pm Krys O.: ↳ fred @2:48 That's a great way to teach.
	2:51pm Krys O.: ↳ Mr Fab @2:42 Mr. Fab: Here's a video of one of Wildgirl's shindigs: youtu.be...
	👻 2:54pm spodiodi: thank you, Krys O!
	2:54pm Krys O.: Thanks everyone for hanging out! Always a pleasure.
	👻 2:54pm fred: ↳ Krys O. @2:50 It's iterative, actually: they're welcome to ask again as long as they made progress (meaning try something). I strongly believe that I at least learn best from failing, then figuring it out
	👻 2:54pm yerfriendpaul: Thank you Krys! Love the show!
	2:55pm newton: thanks Krys!!
	2:55pm Rich in Washington: Thanks, Krys O! Lovely show this afternoon!
	2:57pm Krys O.: WFMU = Theater of Record Skips
	3:00pm Erik abodes VT: ↳ Krys O. @2:51 Wilder & Free times ! (perhaps)

Krys O's Free-Form Roller Coaster: Playlist from January 18, 2025

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Musique concrète to Beautiful Music and everything in between. All styles served here. Laissez-faire free-form!

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January 18, 2025: Oodles of music by Terry Burrows (HBD!), The Coasters, Life, et al!

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Artist	Track	Album	Label	Year	Comments	Approx. start time
Jung Analysts	What's My Line? "What's My Line?" by "Jung Analysts"	Sprockendidootch?	Cordelia	1985	Bandcamp link	0:00:00 (MP3 \| Pop-up)

Happy Birthday to Terry Burrows (Yukio Yung, The Chrysanthemums, Push-Button Pleasure, etc)
Jung Analysts	One Foot in the Greenhouse	Wishing Balloons	Hamster Records and Tapes	1984	Bandcamp link	0:04:32 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Family Yung	A Watch for Other Things Than This	The Lost World of Family Yung Parts One and Two	Moloko+/Onoma Research	2022	Bandcamp link	0:08:13 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Jung Analysts	Another Bore of Babylon	A Leading Surgeon Speaks	Hamster Records and Tapes	1984	Bandcamp link	0:13:03 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
The Chrysanthemums	A Rose for Emily	Odyssey & Oracle	Madagascar	1990	Bandcamp link	0:16:18 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
The Chrysanthemums	Getting Off a One-Way Train	The Baby's Head	Jarmusic / The Orgone Company	1997	Bandcamp link	0:20:41 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Jung Analysts	Giovanni Doesn't Run Fiat Anymore	Sprockendidootch?	Cordelia	1985		0:25:03 (MP3 \| Pop-up)

Terry Burrows	Loop #9 "Loop #9" by "Terry Burrows"	The Whispering Scale	Orgone	1989	Bandcamp link	0:36:19 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Tonesucker	Vere Patitur "Vere Patitur" by "Tonesucker"	Chronophonics vol. 1	Onoma Research	2011	Bandcamp link	0:40:14 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Push-Button Pleasure	Prepare the Iodine	The Vast Difference	Hamster Records and Tapes	1989	Bandcamp link	0:50:40 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Jung Analysts	Blow Down the Mouthpiece	Sprockendidootch?	Cordelia	1985		0:53:14 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Terry Burrows	Loop #1 "Loop #1" by "Terry Burrows"	The Whispering Scale	Orgone	1989		0:55:32 (MP3 \| Pop-up)


Speak Out	The Computer Revolution: Are Women Being Left Behind?	From the BBC show Voice of the People		1984	"Speak Out encourages young people from throughout the country to air their views about topics and issues that matter to them. Introduced by John Craven. Today's topic is to do with the rise of personal computers - why is the computer boom seemingly leaving girls out? With women and girls estimated to account for just one in 13 home computer users, it is feared that microprocessors are fast becoming male-dominated machines. It seems that girls are not taking much interest in the computer revolution. Is this really true, will it harm their future prospects? If so, what can be done about it?" With special guests Judith Hann and Ian McNaught-Davis. Speak Out: Micros and Girls, originally broadcast on 8 May, 1984.	1:02:43 (MP3 \| Pop-up)

The Coasters	Charlie Brown "Charlie Brown" by "The Coasters"		Atco	1959		1:34:59 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
George & Teddy and the Condors	My Little Monkey (excerpt)	From the film Two on a Guillotine		1965		1:37:28 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Mladi Batali	Die Musik ist Da (Opajdi, Opajda)		Amiga	1974		1:39:38 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Life	Hands of the Clock "Hands of the Clock" by "Life"		Polydor	1969		1:41:54 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Neil Diamond	Solitary Man "Solitary Man" by "Neil Diamond"	TV performance on the show From the Bitter End		1967		1:44:53 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
The Eternals	Raining in My Heart "Raining in My Heart" by "The Eternals"		Quality	1967		1:47:37 (MP3 \| Pop-up)
Harry James & His Orchestra	Let's Face the Music and Dance	From the Ed Sullivan Show May 5, 1968		1968		1:49:40 (MP3 \| Pop-up)

Three Dog Night	Chest Fever "Chest Fever" by "Three Dog Night"		Dunhill	1969	B-side of "One"	1:54:49 (MP3 \| Pop-up)

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Listener comments!
	12:56pm Krys O.: Greetings, everyone!
	1:01pm DJ Babs: Hello Hello!!!
	1:02pm Mr Fab: Hey Krys! And much thx for the soothing grooves, Babs.
	1:02pm Krys O.: Hi, Babs!
	👻 1:03pm WR: Hi Krys and folks. Was slow getting up this morning. Was up to nearly 5AM dithering over my Discogs cart.
	1:03pm Krys O.: Hello, Mr. Fab! WR!
	1:05pm Derek Westerholm: Happy Birthday Terry Burrows!
	1:05pm Webhamster Henry: Hiya Krys!
	👻 1:06pm yerfriendpaul: Hi Krys, everyone!
	1:06pm Rich in Washington: Mornin' Krys O!
	1:07pm Derek Westerholm: Hello Krys & chatroom frenz!
	1:07pm Krys O.: Hey, Derek! Henry! Paul! Rich!
	1:09pm DJ Babs: Oh this is so good Krys!
	👻 1:09pm WR: Enthused about your celebrating of Burrows. I learned of him via 'FMU a year or two ago (probably via your program) but I've still not familiar with much of his work.
	1:10pm Mr Fab: Check out WFMU's 1991 schedule. (Esp. Mondays @midnight): ibb.co...
	1:10pm Krys O.: ↳ WR @1:09 Thanks, WR! Terry has a vast catalog of work.
	1:11pm Krys O.: ↳ Mr Fab @1:10 HA! I don't remember ever seeing that. Somebody help me.
	1:12pm Mr Fab: ↳ Krys O. @1:11 Well, in 1991, you would have only been 6 years old.
	1:12pm Krys O.: ↳ Song: "A Watch for Other Things Than This" by "Family Yung" Family Yung is a collaboration between Terry and his son Louis.
	1:13pm Krys O.: ↳ Mr Fab @1:12 LOL!!!Several lifetimes ago.
	👻 1:14pm yerfriendpaul: ↳ Song: "Another Bore of Babylon" by "Jung Analysts" Loving this!!
	1:15pm Krys O.: ↳ yerfriendpaul @1:14 Yes!
	1:18pm Erik abodes VT: Hello👋 everybody. @Krys (& all), mostly familiar with The Chrysanthemums material (great catalog there), yet am curious; did Terry Burrows also get involved with fellow like minded band “Deep Freeze Mice”? (as always, love your eclectic show!).
	👻 1:20pm WR: ↳ Song: "A Rose for Emily" by "The Chrysanthemums" they did the whole Zombies album? Like what I'm hearing, how they have subtly recast it.
	1:20pm Krys O.: ↳ Erik abodes VT @1:18 Howdy, Erik! Alan Jenkins of Deep Freeze Mice and Terry formed the Chrysanthemums. The exact origin story timeline eludes me at the moment.
	👻 1:22pm fred: Hello Krys and all
	1:22pm Krys O.: ↳ Erik abodes VT @1:18 I recently featured selections from the Obscure Independent Classics series that Alan Jenkins released on his label Cordelia. Terry put one volume out on his Hamster label.
	1:22pm Krys O.: Hello, fred! Nice to see you.
	1:23pm Krys O.: ↳ WR @1:20 Indeed! It was an incredible venture and a joy to listen to.
	👻 1:24pm fred: @Krys: There's a "slack" slot on Sundays on that 1991 sched, was that also you?
	1:26pm Krys O.: ↳ fred @1:24 Heavens, no. I did do five shows in one week back in the 80s. I had two regular shows each week, then I did three fill-ins.
	1:27pm Mr Fab: Amazing how many DJs on that schedule are still with WFMU.
	1:28pm Krys O.: ↳ fred @1:24 TKF, Terry Folger took up airing the Media Barrage cassettes around that time.
	1:28pm Krys O.: ↳ Mr Fab @1:27 Absolutely! Also seeing several folks who are no longer with us.
	👻 1:29pm fred: ↳ Mr Fab @1:27 Also some sorely missed names there
	1:29pm Rich in Washington: Wow. Jung Analysts is totally new to me.
	👻 1:31pm fred: Also funny that Irwin was already "ol' pal" 34 years ago
	1:32pm Krys O.: ↳ Rich in Washington @1:29 And this is 40 years old. He still makes music. Well worth checking out.
	1:36pm Erik abodes VT: ↳ Krys O. @1:28 alluding to that motif of R.I.P🪦: I sent this thanks to you earlier via another show (& thanks to WR, for the heads-up on your Mick Hobbs tribute - which I had randomly missed) = “@KrysO: thank you for your mini-tribute ode to the exceptional talents of Mick Hobbs! Was saddened by learning of his passing to another plane of existence. Sigh😔. Collected as much of his early-mid career as I could find. Happily the prolific Mr Hobbs has left us quite a cornucopia of musical delights - was creative right up to his finale.”
	1:39pm Krys O.: ↳ Erik abodes VT @1:36 Thank you for your kind words.
	👻 1:43pm fred: I do remember Rix fondly. His show was overnight for you, morning for me at some point
	1:45pm Erik abodes VT: … random query re 1980s/90s era DJs: I recall appreciating the innovative & distinct broadcasts of “Bronwyn C” - is she still to be found creating sounds anywhere?
	1:45pm Krys O.: ↳ fred @1:43 He was a pal. He had a show when I was a student in the early 80s. Always fun to chat with him. I loved his shows too.
	1:46pm Krys O.: ↳ Erik abodes VT @1:45 The last I recall of her on WFMU was Sportsy Talk with Jim the Poet. I think she's still an editor.
	1:47pm newton: I used to listen to wreck this mess back then, only I never saw it written so I thought it was rec this mess so I recorded it. Still have some, especially a christmas one I play every year
	1:50pm Krys O.: ↳ newton @1:47 Hi, newton! Bart still puts up shows on Mixcloud, IIRC.
	1:52pm Krys O.: By the way, those guys are still revving away in the garage behind the house. :D
	1:52pm Erik abodes VT: ↳ Krys O. @1:46 Ok✅, “Sportsy Talk” is news to me. Vaguely recall Jim referring to it via his shows. I went on a WFMU semi-blackout from approximately 1995-2021. Anybody have pointers to “BronwynC” related archives via show titles & or monikers.
	1:52pm newton: Hi Krys! glad I dropped in!
	👻 1:52pm fred: ↳ Krys O. @1:45 I also vividly remember that fateful night when Wm. Berger didn't show up. Was it Mary Wing who had to stay on the air? That sinking feeling when I figured it was something serious...
	1:53pm newton: Jung Analyst was great
	1:54pm Krys O.: ↳ fred @1:52 That's correct. I was chatting about Wm with a friend just last night.
	1:56pm Dan S: ↳ Erik abodes VT @1:52 Here's a link to her archive page: wfmu.org...
	👻 1:56pm fred: ↳ Erik abodes VT @1:52 Look here: wfmu.org... It's not consistent though, sometimes a new name is listed separately, sometimes it just replaces the old one
	1:56pm Krys O.: ↳ Dan S @1:56 Hi, Dan! Thanks!
	👻 2:07pm fred: ↳ Song: "The Computer Revolution: Are Women Being Left Beh... Sadly still relevant, despite the fact that computer operation was for a while demeaned as a female occupation, and the first coder was a woman (and even had a language named after her)
	2:07pm Dan S: ↳ Song: "The Computer Revolution: Are Women Being Left Beh... Yeah, computers are just a phase people are going through. Sounds hilarious today. When it comes to technology, almost any 40-year-old discussion/prediction will be amusing.
	2:09pm Krys O.: Judith is describing the internalized patriarchy.
	👻 2:11pm spodiodi: greetings, Krys O. and all!
	2:12pm Krys O.: My brother had computer science class in high school in the early 1970s. There were very few students in the class, but there were young girls in the class. The professor was a woman. I'm 7 years younger than my brother, and he would tell me about computers back then. I found it fascinating.
	2:12pm Krys O.: Hi, spodiodi!
	2:14pm newton: boys should shoot each other
	👻 2:16pm fred: I've often mentored women at work, now there are parity initiatives, from which I'm banned. The head of that is a man, of course
	👻 2:16pm spodiodi: how profound
	2:18pm Roberto: ↳ Song: "The Computer Revolution: Are Women Being Left Beh... gurlz don't know syense
	👻 2:19pm spodiodi: hahaha Americans w cars
	2:19pm Krys O.: ↳ Roberto @2:18 Hi, Roberto!
	2:19pm Krys O.: A wee TV!
	2:20pm Roberto: ↳ Krys O. @2:19 Yo!
	2:21pm Roberto: ↳ Krys O. @2:19 These people talk funny hehe
	👻 2:22pm fred: Graduate students just use frameworks and ChatGPT or Copilot these days. Women tend to try to understand and master tech, guys just want to hang out and let the bots take over
	2:23pm Krys O.: ↳ fred @2:22 Interesting....
	2:24pm newton: the computers then didnt have an internet, or hard drives of more than a few MB. they played pong
	2:26pm Krys O.: ↳ newton @2:24 I remember Pong from the 70s. In my brother's high school class, the computer was connected to the SUNY system. The students could send messages to other computers.
	👻 2:27pm fred: ↳ Krys O. @2:23 Women often had to fight to get taken seriously, I think that's why they try harder (well, those who make it that far). Guys just fall up
	2:29pm Ken From Hyde Park: Hello, Krys O. and ticket holders! 🎟️
	2:29pm Krys O.: ↳ fred @2:27 In my days in high school, the computer class (singular) was hard to get into. They favored those who took AP (Advanced Placement college level) math classes.
	2:29pm Krys O.: Hi, Ken!
	2:30pm Krys O.: ↳ fred @2:27 Exactly.
	2:30pm newton: I dont remember being ablr to send messages to other in the 80s, but the word processing was a great advance really. I wouldn't type my papers because I was so bad at tyrping and word processing changed all that. We also used the computer to write edit and lay out the student newspaper
	2:32pm Roberto: ↳ Song: "The Computer Revolution: Are Women Being Left Beh... Killer theme music!
	2:32pm Krys O.: ↳ newton @2:30 I think they used telephone modems to connect to the ARPANET via the State University of New York system directly.
	2:33pm Krys O.: ↳ newton @2:30 Word processing, yup. I took typing lessons on a computer in the early 80s on a program that my brother wrote.
	👻 2:34pm fred: I think I might just suck at communicating with guys, though. One of my usual tips is "the fastest algorithm is the one you don't use". Most women get it, few men do
	2:34pm newton: I learned to use the computer from women
	2:35pm Krys O.: ↳ fred @2:34 Ha!
	👻 2:36pm yerfriendpaul: ↳ Song: "Charlie Brown" by "The Coasters" Love this song! My Dad used to play this tune back in his wedding band days. For my folk’s 50th anniversary, my brothers and I played a few cover tunes at the party and this was one of them
	2:36pm Krys O.: ↳ yerfriendpaul @2:36 It's a masterpiece!
	👻 2:37pm yerfriendpaul: We didn’t have a sax player, so I played kazoo ha ha
	2:38pm Krys O.: ↳ yerfriendpaul @2:36 I sang that sax break last night while I was washing dishes. It blew my mind how brilliant it was.
	👻 2:38pm yerfriendpaul: ↳ Krys O. @2:38 Fantastic! It is great, you’re right!
	👻 2:39pm fred: ↳ Krys O. @2:35 I wonder whether that might be related to how girls are told to tidy up while boys are expected to be messy. Later when I tell people to eliminate what's not necessary to make reasoning and fixing easier, let's say some are better at it than others
	2:40pm Krys O.: ↳ yerfriendpaul @2:38 I've heard the oldies and classics so many times since I was a kid that I can sing them back. I can't read music, but I've got a good ear.
	👻 2:42pm yerfriendpaul: ↳ Krys O. @2:40 A good ear is the key!
	2:42pm Krys O.: ↳ fred @2:39 It's a definite reinforcement of the traditional roles of patriarchal society.
	2:42pm Mr Fab: Regarding that 1991 schedule, I want to hear “wildgirl.“
	2:43pm newton: ↳ Mr Fab @2:42 Monster Trucks!
	2:43pm Krys O.: ↳ Mr Fab @2:42 Her show was legendary! Ericka is legendary! And she's a sweetheart. She gave me some great advice on acclimating a new kitty to the household years ago.
	2:44pm Krys O.: ↳ Mr Fab @2:42 Wildgirl's Go-Go-Rama was thee event back then.
	2:46pm Erik abodes VT: Re Terry Burrows / Yukio Yung: via Discogs, informed that he put out a fun Jeff Lynne EP (1994) of 5 cover songs - including Xanadu!😃.
	2:48pm Krys O.: ↳ Erik abodes VT @2:46 It's a bottomless catalog of work.
	👻 2:48pm fred: ↳ Krys O. @2:42 On the other hand, my "teaching" style is to point out something that is wrong, explain why it it wrong, but not tell what is right. Guys get angry, women either look for someone else to do it for them (good riddance) or enjoy the challenge. The latter end up teaching me more than I teach them
	2:50pm Krys O.: ↳ fred @2:48 That's a great way to teach.
	2:51pm Krys O.: ↳ Mr Fab @2:42 Mr. Fab: Here's a video of one of Wildgirl's shindigs: youtu.be...
	👻 2:54pm spodiodi: thank you, Krys O!
	2:54pm Krys O.: Thanks everyone for hanging out! Always a pleasure.
	👻 2:54pm fred: ↳ Krys O. @2:50 It's iterative, actually: they're welcome to ask again as long as they made progress (meaning try something). I strongly believe that I at least learn best from failing, then figuring it out
	👻 2:54pm yerfriendpaul: Thank you Krys! Love the show!
	2:55pm newton: thanks Krys!!
	2:55pm Rich in Washington: Thanks, Krys O! Lovely show this afternoon!
	2:57pm Krys O.: WFMU = Theater of Record Skips
	3:00pm Erik abodes VT: ↳ Krys O. @2:51 Wilder & Free times ! (perhaps)

Krys O's Free-Form Roller Coaster: Playlist from January 18, 2025

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